Posted on 04/30/2011 8:37:33 PM PDT by Triple
“there is no “magic” in the words, “Natural Born Citizen”
That’s it. You are a MAROON! You don’t know WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
There is MAGIC in those three words. It’s called the Constitution of the United States.
I hope no one pays attention to your post as it is disinformation at best, out right LIES at worst.
You sir, are TOTAL IGNORANCE ON DISPLAY
If not born on U.S. soil he is not a U.S. Citizen at all....
John Bingham, “father of the 14th Amendment”, the abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln’s assassins, reaffirmed the definition known to the framers, not once, but twice during Congressional discussions of Citizenship pertaining to the upcoming 14th Amendment and a 3rd time nearly 4 years after the 14th was adopted.
The House of Representatives definition for “natural born Citizen” was read into the Congressional Record during the Civil War, without contest!
“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).
The House of Representatives definition for “natural born Citizen” was read into the Congressional Record after the Civil War, without contest!
“every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))”
No other Representative ever took issue with these words on the floor of the House. If you read the Congressional Globe to study these debates, you will see that many of the underlying issues were hotly contested. However, Bingham’s definition of “natural born citizen” (born of citizen parents in the sovereign territory of the U.S.) was never challenged on the floor of the House. Without a challenge on the definition, it appears the ALL where in agreement.
Even Biden knows that minorities would hang him from a lamp post.
It was not an issue in the campaign. No State challenged it.
Already answered the question to you.
Not your bogus “Natural Law” fantasies.
Again, already answered the question to you.
Only something that the people did NOT know, before Obama was elected, will even come close to harming Obama, at this point. Yes, that is a political, not a legal argument, but I make it in the hope it might persuade you to drop a stupid legal argument.
Now now I wouldn't be saying "stupid" after reading your recent posts.
And oh yeah, Denninger which this thread is about..he is correct. Obama's "new" Hawaiian COLB that he showed to the public is a forgery.
I'm not doing your research for you, but being born on a U.S. Ship or plane doesn't give you ANY KIND of citizenship. You probably think being born in a U.S. embassy abroad make you a citizen. SORRY.
I have literal first hand knowledge. I was born in Boston to an American citizen father and a Canadian citizen mother. I am not a natural born citizen. I cannot become president. I had a US Customs officer and a professor of law at Northeastern University tell me that 30 years ago.
You are wrong sir:
Here is the law, chapter and verse:
The U.S. Immigration Law that covers the issue of children born abroad to 1 citizen and 1 alien.
http://library.uwb.edu/guides/USimmigration/66%20stat%20163.pdf
the McCarran-Walter Act, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952
Public law 82-414 Chapter 1 Section 301 (7)
This applies to Obozo (it was the law at the time of his birth), assuming he is the son of Barrack H. Obama, Sr. and that he was born abroad.
If born abroad with the stated father, he is not even a U.S. Citizen.....
If he was born in the U.S. he would be a citizen by birth, but not a “natural born” citizen.
We need to take the Obama case to the courts for final resolution, but the decision is not cut and tried.
“There is no magical meaning for “Natural Born Citizen” it just means that you were a citizen at birth.”
YOU ARE WRONG. The constitution is the SUPREME law of the land. You can’t just brush it aside and IGNORE it.
LoL. Gee why is that OBots? No color?? Do we have a composite image. Yes we do.
Obama always said his Father was from Kenya.
The Country voted for him, sadly.
The States and the Electoral College did not protest.
Congress accepted the Electoral College results.
The Chief Justice swore Obama in as POTUS!
Get real!
YOU LOST YOUR CASE IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION and in all the legal forums that matter.
Now, if we can prove he was not born in the United States, GREAT!
Save that?
All you have is the historical opinions of some, not all, of our founders. And we don't even know how the 14th Amendment effects eligibility for POTUS since no Court has ruled on the matter.
Obama always said his Father was from Kenya.
The Country voted for him, sadly.
The States and the Electoral College did not protest.
Congress accepted the Electoral College results.
The Chief Justice swore Obama in as POTUS!
Get real!
YOU LOST YOUR CASE IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION and in all the legal forums that matter.
Now, if we can prove he was not born in the United States, GREAT!
Save that?
All you have is the historical opinions of some, not all, of our founders. And we don't even know how the 14th Amendment effects eligibility for POTUS since no Court has ruled on the matter.
For all you folks who believe “citizen by birth” is the same thing as “natural born citizen”, I’m curious to know why you think the founders included the grandfather clause in the eligibility requirements. Seems rather redundant if your definition is correct. Yet the grandfather clause was joined to the natual born citizen clause by the word “or”, as if a person had to be one or the other to qualify. Please enlighten me.
Do you really think that if the shoe was on the other foot, if George Bush had this problem in his background, that the democrats would never use it against him?
Oh wait they did try it against McCain who did not have such a clear cut case of ineligibility as Obama does.
I assure you if any republican had this problem, if Jindal was in office right now, if Marco Rubio was in office and could not prove that their parents were citizens when they were born here, the democrats would be moving heaven and earth to remove them from office and discredit the republicans.
The let’s make nice, can’t everyone just get along, go along to get along republicans can’t seem to get the courage to do what is right and defend the Constitution. Every last one of the cowards needs to be given walking papers. Trump, either comes around and starts emphasizing these problems with this BC and the info on it or he’s part of the problem.
We need people in office willing to stand up for the Constitution. We don’t need people who believe they can take pieces of the Constitution they like and override the portions they don’t like. Also, anyone who enables them and provides them cover is no better than the usurpers.
So it looks as if the last digit of the number was added in.
The series:
151-61-10640
151-61-10641 <————
151-61-10642
151-61-10643
151-61-10644
151-61-10645
151-61-10646
151-61-10647
151-61-10648
151-61-10649
Any one of those could have been used, and had the last digit substituted.
Whose 1961 HI birth certificates have the real numbers in this series?
Thank you, I really needed that laugh. You were made my evening with your prose. LMAO
Obama’s “new” COLB that he put on line is a forgery. You got a hiccup sport.
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