Posted on 04/30/2011 8:37:33 PM PDT by Triple
Just keep ignoring Bingham. The truth is right there with him.
Actually I’m wrong about what the resolution states. It says that the Constitution doesn’t define NBC. However, it was defined several times elsewhere during the writing of the Constitution and during the hashing out of the 14th Amendment.
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The Resolution in the Senate, regarding McCain being eligible for POTUS, DID mention that both of his parents were citizens.
That Resolution did NOT state that this was required.
You are factually wrong.
The Resolution in the Senate, regarding McCain being eligible for POTUS, DID mention that both of his parents were citizens.
That Resolution did NOT state that this was required.
You are factually wrong.
“Welcome to New Kenya (Africa USA) Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land” (I first stated that the week of his coronation -TF)
And this has what to do with U.S. constitution and U.S. citizenship? The U.S. does not care what Italy or any other country does. It does not affect U.S. law. Think about it.
Dead Horse!
The country knew this, and the country disagreed with you.
Sadly, that battle is lost.
Lets fight on a hill we might be able to win?
Dead Horse!
The country knew this, and the country disagreed with you.
Sadly, that battle is lost.
Lets fight on a hill we might be able to win?
The very fact that it was mentioned should tell you something. Are you familiar with the term, "read between the lines?"
The issue that has to be resolved is whether birthright citizenship (jus solis) is natural born citizenship per the Constitution and eligibility to be President.
Here is the 2008 joint opinion of Lawrence Tribe and Ted Olson on McCain's eligibility:
The Constitution does not define the meaning of “natural born Citizen.” The U.S. Supreme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress, Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the Founding. United Suites v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm that the phrase “natural born” includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a nation’s territory and allegiance. Thus, regardless of the sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain’s birth, he is a “natural born” citizen because he was born to parents who were U.S. citizens.
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Indeed, the statute that the First Congress enacted on this subject not only established that such children are U.S. citizens, but also expressly referred to them as “natural born citizens.” Act of Mar. 26, 1790, ch. 3, § 1, 1 Stat. 103, 104.
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Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satisfies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For example, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860 — one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961 — not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.
Nothing. He will serve out his term. The point here is the depth to which dims will go to gain power. The Constitution doesn't matter, laws don't matter, honesty and decency don't matter. They even stoop to fraud. And their news minions help them. And like the dims to them the truth is irrelevant. This is what this issue has always been about. We are trying to restore the rule of law to this nation. The dims want the rule of men.
You are wrong. And your sixth double post allows me to say that it’s really annoying.
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court could rule either way. There are many arguments including English common law that would define the place of birth as the deciding factor (including a speech by James Madison in Congress no less) while others would argue that parentage was the deciding factor.
Jewish custom is to follow the mother as to whether a child is Jewish. Since obama is already in, I would assume that the court would go with place. Since a tie goes to the runner, obama would probably win NBC status.
That said, obama is still the worst president in history and must be defeated.
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He must have been reading FR. ;-) Why forge the document OBots since Obama was born in Hawaii right??
I would think the writer of the 14th would know better than you.
John Bingham, aka “father of the 14th Amendment”, was an abolitionist congressman from Ohio who prosecuted Lincoln’s assassins. Ten years earlier, he stated on the House floor:
“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862))
Then in 1866, Bingham also stated on the House floor:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))
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Natural Born means NOT NATURALIZED!
This is, for EVER MORE what it means, until we get a Constitutional Amendment or a Court ruling that says otherwise.
Done deal, its over, your side, and anyone in history who agrees with you, LOST!
I can't stand Obama but I think YOU are ridiculous.
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