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Black box of doomed Rio-Paris Air France flight recovered, say investigators
France24 ^ | 1 May 2011

Posted on 05/01/2011 11:38:48 AM PDT by csvset

Search teams recovered the memory unit of one of the “black boxes” of the Air France Rio-Paris plane that crashed in the Atlantic in June 2009, investigators said Sunday. The crash had killed all 228 people on board.

AP - France’s air accident investigation agency says an undersea search has located the flight data recorder from the 2009 Air France flight that went down in the mid-Atlantic. In a statement, the BEA said the black box was “localized and identified” on Sunday morning. The statement included photos of the recorder - a red cylinder partially buried in sand on the sea floor.

Investigators hope that the black box will help determine what caused the June 1, 2009 crash of Flight 447 from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to the French capital, Paris.

All 228 people on board were killed when the aircraft plunged into a remote area of the Atlantic during a thunderstorm.

The bulk of the wreckage was only recently discovered in a deep-sea search.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: af447; aviationpinglist; brazil; france; paris; rio
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To: csvset

Kudos and outstanding efforts by the deep water recovery teams finding the black box so deep on the ocean floor.


21 posted on 05/01/2011 12:51:03 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: tflabo

“Kudos and outstanding efforts by the deep water recovery teams finding the black box so deep on the ocean floor.”

For sure! That couldn’t have been easy.


22 posted on 05/01/2011 1:00:51 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: OldDeckHand

If the box is of modern construction, it might use mil-spec multi-error-detection and correction flash memory and not a metal or plastic tape, so it might be in pretty good shape. I think I read that if there is no mechanical damage or long exposure to fire, they are amazingly sturdy.


23 posted on 05/01/2011 1:41:17 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: fso301
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Frankly, I don't believe it's the "real" black box ...

A fake, manufactured to the prcise details, software loaded to present the "narrative story" they want everyone to believe ...

and placed in sea water for the appropriate period (under sufficient hydraulic press, to mimic the ocean depth) ...

could any decent aerospace mechanical engineer accompish this ?

Yes ... provided with enough time and money ...

Why ?

ANYTHING-ANYTHING-ANYTHING to cover-up that Molsem terrorists destroyed "yet another" jet aircraft filled with civilians ....

Nothing to see here ... just move along ...


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24 posted on 05/01/2011 1:50:17 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne
"Nothing to see here ... just move along ... "

Actually, there is quite a bit to see here. As several other posters pointed out, the AB300 has been plagued with problems, almost from the very beginning. It has hurt business. Who loses when Airbus is hurt because of manufacturing or design flaws? Europe - as in European governments, who of course, are the owners of Airbus Inustries.

From a purely business perspective - as a manufacturer - nothing could please them more than to peddle this off to an act of "something other than design or manufacturing flaw" - like terrorism.

25 posted on 05/01/2011 1:54:40 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: csvset
I thought the sonar pinger went silent after about 30 days, making this find of a black box after two plus years unbelievably lucky (emphasis on unbelievably).

Regards,
GtG

26 posted on 05/01/2011 2:00:13 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: csvset

Perhaps some of our aviation friends here on FR can help me.
Why don’t they install real-time satellite transponders to send the same info going to the black boxes?
Rolls Royce does it with their jet engines.


27 posted on 05/01/2011 2:26:46 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: csvset
All 228 people on board were killed when the aircraft plunged into a remote area of the Atlantic

Unless there is a landfall nearby, isn't the whole ocean considered "remote"?

28 posted on 05/01/2011 2:33:54 PM PDT by hattend (How much do you have to invest in the future before you've spent it and no longer have one? - Steyn)
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To: csvset

The black box is a red cylinder.


29 posted on 05/01/2011 5:05:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: null and void

tHE fLT 700 RECORD WAS COVERED UP. iF THE RECORDER WAS FOUND IT WAS DESTROYED


30 posted on 05/01/2011 5:07:41 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: MistrX
Perhaps some of our aviation friends here on FR can help me. Why don’t they install real-time satellite transponders to send the same info going to the black boxes? Rolls Royce does it with their jet engines.

Strangely enough the plane on question had satellite uplink for maintenance issues etc. but not for emergency data. Most of what is known about what happened to the flight is from the maintenance data sent to the home office.

31 posted on 05/01/2011 5:28:40 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: null and void

Right you are but Komrade Klinton couldn’t have such on his watch. I’ll go with all the eye witnesses.


32 posted on 05/01/2011 6:43:47 PM PDT by mcshot ("..of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: mylife
"I bet they got hit with a microburst and the wings just snapped like twigs."

Oh look....mylife learned a new word.

Next time you learn a new word, learn what it means, not just how to spell it.

AF447 most definitely did not encounter a microburst, and it's wings most definitely did not snap like twigs. Well, maybe on impact with the ocean in a flat spin.

33 posted on 05/01/2011 6:49:35 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: mcshot; null and void

Scratch post as flight changed. Note to self: something to be said about reading established threads before posting.


34 posted on 05/01/2011 6:50:08 PM PDT by mcshot ("..of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: mcshot

...and for posting the correct flight number in the first place...


35 posted on 05/01/2011 6:56:25 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 829 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
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To: fso301
"....authorities weren't eager to locate that box too quickly?"

Just the opposite, they went to great trouble and expense to do so. Not knowing precisely what went wrong puts great stress on EVERY agency, manufacturer and supplier along with AF.

There was much angst when the wreckage was not found quickly.

Way too many conspiracy loons around who know very little about aviation, and are always looking for an evil entity to blame for every accident.

Idiots all.

36 posted on 05/01/2011 7:07:00 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: buccaneer81
"Airbus has scared off a lot of business."

Uhhh, nooo. They are doing just fine. Not a single order has been lost due to safety concerns.

Concerned about composites? Oh yeah, Boeing was so concerned about that they built an entire airplane out of it (but screwed the program up badly).

37 posted on 05/01/2011 7:18:06 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: MistrX
"Why don't they install..."

Well, they do, but the parameters are much more limited than what is stored in the box. The aircraft sends regular condition reports via sat, and unusual events as they happen.

Events cascaded quickly on this flight, overwhelming the ability of the system to sort out the what/why/how/when. So it was imperative to recover the box. Hopefully they will also recover the CVR.

38 posted on 05/01/2011 7:32:15 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: 04-Bravo; 1stFreedom; A_Conservative_Chinese; acehai; Aeronaut; af_vet_rr; AFreeBird; ...

aviation ping


39 posted on 05/11/2011 8:34:27 PM PDT by raygun
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France's Bureau d'Enquetes et d'Analyses has released this striking map of the debris field from flight AF447, the Airbus A330-200 which crashed in the South Atlantic in June 2009.

Click on the map for a larger version.

AF447: Map of the debris field

Interim Report n°2 a/o 09 Nov 30 (PDF 9.4MB)

EXCERPT:

At this stage, in the absence of any data from the flight recorders, the main parts of the airplane and any witness testimony on the flight, the precise circumstances of the accident, and therefore its causes, have still not been determined. The investigative work is continuing with this objective.

40 posted on 05/12/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by raygun
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