[ClearCase_guy]

I agree with you, but I also think it goes the other way. You could present videotaped evidence of the birth, with a dated Kenyan newspaper plainly evident in the delivery room, and elephants walking past the window.....

Either way, people believe what they want to believe and nothing will shake them. And the official story is that he was born in Hawaii and I no longer see much point in anyone trying to say, "Yeah, but ..."

[wbill]

Oh yeah, you're right. And I like the Elephants Imagery.

Throw in the the whole "Hunh? Who's the President Again?" crowd, who would be hard-pressed to find either Hawaii OR Kenya on a map..... and there's a whole lot of intertia to overcome.

Frankly, I think that people would be better off working towards getting him tossed in 2012, than trying to un-elect him from 2008. But that's just me.

[wbill]

Also, as far as the "forgery" aspect is concerned, I was surprised that they listed his dad's race as "African".

I wasn't around in 1961, but I thought that the term used then would be "Negro". Figured that was before PC-ism had reared it's ugly head.

I suppose that it would be easy enough to check another birth certificate from HI in that time frame with a black father listed on it. If any intrepid reporters had the wit or the inclination to do such a thing, that is.

[WOSG]

If there was some real evidence behind any claim other than him being born in Honolulu, yeah, it would change things.
As it is now, there is zero evidence for that.
So those who take the powers-that-be and their official docs at their word have their whole story; those who assume they are all in on a scam to mislead have theirs.