Obama's Birth Certificate Was Apparently Manipulated

http://www.whitehouse.gov ^ | 5/3/2011 | Self

[wintertime]

Please read my posts # 58 and #59.

[melancholy]

I suppose I am getting discouraged. :-(

You shouldn't. ;) Thats exactly what many hope to stop the discovery.

Obama has us in a bad position.

Conservatives are the only ones who would make it worse by kowtowing to intimidation by becoming RINOs. He's the one that is in a terrible position with many more Americans who never heard of his frauds.

[little jeremiah]

Well, you weren't here on FR until 2009 and people were certainly doing their homework here and elsewhere. If you think there is evidence that the newspapers got the announcemnts from the DofH in 1961 please post it. Otherwise, you are speculating without substance. If you have not read ladysforest's blog you should. She's definitely done her homework.

[melancholy]

Thanks, wintertime.

[whattajoke]

lj to whiskeyX: Well, you weren't here on FR until 2009

Careful WhiskeyX. In little jerermiah land, one's duration (as it shows on their profile page) on Free Republic is directly correlated to the value of one's argument. Nothing gets her more excited than to gather the troops to get users newer than her zotted, even ones who have been here almost 3 yrs.

I can say this because my join date predates hers and therefore, whatever I say simply must be more important that what she says. Crazy how that works.

[little jeremiah]

I already stated before that signup dates are not relevant except in a few cases. For instance, an old signup date with a tiny number of comments, all weird ones.

Or a brand new signup date who has obviously been banned before.

It’s content.

THe point is that makes a claim that is not proven and has been discussed ad infinitum on FR since before his signup date. Sheesh.

[whattajoke]

okay, that's fair. I'm on board with that. But when you write, THe point is that makes a claim that is not proven and has been discussed ad infinitum on FR, you DO realize we're commenting on the 874th thread about the same thing, right?

;/

[little jeremiah]

Or a newer signup date and the person is a “concern” or other kind of troll, professional “debunker” etc.

I am not one of those who slings around nonsense that all “noobs” are idiots. There are others here who do that but I am not. To them I am a “noob”.

[MHGinTN]

Perhaps you can help me find something? I’ve just gone back through the last two years of your posts and have yet to find one post that offers actual data on a thread where some topic is being discussed. You make lots of posts ridiculing and praising the Darwin Central denizens, and seem to have read a lot about religions and Christian sects—as you claim to be an atheist, that seems a contradiction in time useage—but you use whatever you may know of these things to form more convoluted ridicule. Is there a post or two to which you might point me in which you actually tried to add some piece of real data to the thread? ... and yes, I’m jumping on your smarmy ass because you deign to ridicule a Lady.

[Springfield Reformer]

Hammering Obama on doubts of his eligibility and winning elections are not mutually exclusive objectives. We can and should do both. The problem is this. Winning elections still remains within the realm of the feasible, whereas escorting Obama from the White House anytime before January 2013 is not realistic. Even if we had direct and irrefutable evidence that he deliberately defrauded the American people in 2008, there is no mechanism to remove him, other than an election, that has any chance of working. Our system has been hacked, we have a virus, and we have to deal with it realistically. A good general chooses which battles to fight to make best use of available resources, and right now, our most important resource is voters. We don’t need to make enemies of people who are on our side, who can really help the conservative cause and who do support our Constitution, just because they believe that electoral victory offers a more certain path to victory.

[whattajoke]

oh me! I'm flattered... But confused.

and seem to have read a lot about religions and Christian sects—as you claim to be an atheist, that seems a contradiction in time useage

Well, I do not believe in any gods but I do know a bit about many of them. I could post some data showing how non-theists know more about religions than the faithful, but I don't want to ruin my non-data track record. (Note: I do NOT know more about Christianity than 90% of the people of FR.)

and praising the Darwin Central denizens

Didn't that whole thing go down well before 2 years ago? You know, when it was decided that biology and science were terrible things and those who promoted biology and science were either banned or moved to self-banishment? Anyway, I used to post plenty of data back 6, 7, 8, 9 years ago. But it's boring sciencey data, so don't bother with it.

I’m jumping on your smarmy ass because you deign to ridicule a Lady.

You're kidding, right? little jeremiah? I didn't ridicule her; I pointed out that she and her FRiends have a habit of hunting down and "executing" newbies and those with whem they disagree. (Usually about gay stuff.)

I don't think she'd even dispute that; in fact, I bet she's proud of it!

Anyway, what "data" do you want me to post on this thread. Many people have tried to explain how these "layers" are perfectly normal artifacts, but that doesn't matter. If you want MY conspiracy theory - that I really do believe to some degree - it's that Trump and others are paid operatives of the n0bama administration who foment this nonsense about something that will never matter while the liar in chief shoves all sorts of crap down' America's throat; a throat that is tired from yelling about pdf layers and trial runs of Illustrator.

[whattajoke]

oops; forgot to cc you in on a comment in which you were mentioned; above.

[rolling_stone]

hot off the press

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/author/naturalborncitizen/

[RobinOfKingston]

He needs to submit hard copy to the FBI and have them verify its provenance.

Don't hold your breath.

Don't hold your breath even if the FBI had hold of the original, given that the FBI is part of the "justice department."

[rolling_stone]

military coup?
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/03/did-the-u-s-military-act-on-its-own-authority-to-kill-bin-laden/

[MHGinTN]

Any objective person reading your post #65, referring to 'little jeremiah land' knows you're now spinning. You tried to ridicule the Lady, not even addressing her directly, just pointing in mocking tone while addressing whiskey x. But that was a typical nice try at dissembling.

And while I'm at it, you're feeble effort to ridicule me as 'unable to deal with sciency stuff, so you won't address it' is duly noted. I happen to be quite adept at 'handling that sciency stuff', as attested by the little book I wrote and posted for free downloading several years ago which addressed embryonic stem cells, stem cells, and cloning. You might even learn something from it as posted on my blog site. Not being a blogpimp, I don't write about it here, but you can find it through reading my profile page.

[butterdezillion]

Maybe, instead, you should ask “Koa” and the Prius Chat poster why they said they went personally to the Hawaii State Library and took copies from the Star-Bulletin microfilms, when in reality they got the images from somebody at the Honolulu Advertiser office. Ask them why they didn’t just go to the HSL like they said, and get real copies. Why did they lie about that?

And you might want to ask somebody at the Honolulu Advertiser office why the Advertiser image they gave Michael Rivero at Whatreallyhappened.com morphed over time to get rid of the C&P lines and to correct the bad angle originally put into the image? Or maybe why they cropped and deliberately blurred their corrected image when they posted it for Will Hoover’s Nov 9, 2008 article.

And you might ask them why we should trust an image as being from a microfilm, when it morphs before our very eyes over time.

Let me know the answers you get. ;)

[butterdezillion]

I’m arguing about the rule of law. I’m saying we should have it. What is Mr Steyn arguing?

[butterdezillion]

Why didn’t they use OCR for the “white copy”? Which, BTW, has no sign of a seal anywhere. Where the heck did that “copy” come from?

And where did the kerning come from? I told the old guy I work with in a newspaper office that the Obama BC was supposedly typed in 1961 and had kerning, and his response was, “There’s no way that’s real.”

[isom35]

my gosh the threads about layers now have layers themselves!