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To: DoughtyOne
Your questions are silly and have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whatever it is you are trying to prove. Who cares about the contractors or the neighbors? Get a grip!

This guy is living in the center of a bustling city (not inside caves) in a big real estate close to what is West Point of Pakistan, with military and police head quarters not to far away. Osama lived there for a good amount of time with his entire family and possibly with his AQ support network/operatives, and here you are saying that its conceivable that ISI had no idea? The US was able to get accurate ground intel from thousands of miles away and ISI had absolutely no idea?? Are you crazy?!

10 posted on 05/05/2011 2:31:02 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
Your questions are silly and have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on whatever it is you are trying to prove.

Well, let's start with what I was trying to prove.  I was not trying to prove anything definitively.  I was trying to make the case that despite what it looks like, there is always the possibility that the ISI was not aware that Osama Ben Laden was their neighbor.

Who cares about the contractors or the neighbors?

I didn't mention the contractors, but now that you have lets discuss it.  Who dealt with seller, the contractors, the neighbors, and the local authorities?  Laden, one of his wives, one of the other men or other women, or someone else?  What name did Laden go by locally at the time of his death?  How did he come to the area?  Did others locate there and then he came along months or even years later in the middle of the night?  Did the local authorities even know that a male individual of his description was staying there?  If they did, did they know it was him?

Get a grip!

;^)

This guy is living in the center of a bustling city (not inside caves) in a big real estate close to what is West Point of Pakistan, with military and police head quarters not to far away.

Yep, that's about it.

Osama lived there for a good amount of time with his entire family and possibly with his AQ support network/operatives, and here you are saying that its conceivable that ISI had no idea?

If a family moved in three blocks from me, I wouldn't know about it.  If they claimed they were the Giraffe family, I wouldn't know they were really the Elephant family.  I wouldn't know if they said they were the Smiths and then allowed the Joneses to move in serveral months later, and especially if the Joneses claimed to be the Johnsons.

The US was able to get accurate ground intel from thousands of miles away and ISI had absolutely no idea??

The U.S. was able to find out the name of one or more runners.  It was in our best interest to find out.  It wasn't the ISI's top priority.  Even if it had been, they didn't have access to the prisoners we did.

Are you crazy?!

Some people think so.  Some people don't.

If you'll think about it, even in the United States, people who have been wanted for decades sometimes show up right under everyone's nose.  It happens here.  It can happen there.

Now, have I said the ISI absolutely did not know?  No.  Have I said the Pakistani government absolutely did not know?  No.  It's possible they did.

All I am saying is that as much as it seems to make sense to us that they had to know, it is not an absolute that they did.

There was a massive reward for him.  If I am him, I'm using every trick in the book to avoid anyone knowing who I am or where I am.

11 posted on 05/05/2011 3:19:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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