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To: curiosity
Mental pain or suffering is not mental anguish.

I don't think panic over inducing a drowning reflex is a disruption of the senses or personality - they are making them quite aware of the sense of drowning - not disrupting that sense.

And while a drowning reflex makes someone go through the physical reactions associated with them being threatened by imminent death - nobody yet had died from it -nor is death threatened or implied as a consequence of this procedure - so I don't see it as a threat of imminent death either.

Torture has a clear meaning to most people, and making someone think they are drowning for 15 minutes to get them to talk doesn't cover it to most people - that is just a coercive interrogation technique.

Seeings as how genuine real deal torture DOES go on - I think it critical to differentiate what we do with what goes on elsewhere.

As the sibling of a rather sadistic older brother - I had to laugh at Ann Coulter’s characterization recalling herself growing up with her older brother.

Here is Ann Coulter describing (satirically) the absolute HORROR of reading the CIA “torture” memos.

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2009/04/29/muslims_we_do_that_on_first_dates

38 posted on 05/05/2011 10:01:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Mental pain or suffering is not mental anguish.

Huh? Anguish is excrutiating mental pain or suffering! That's the definition fo the word! Hence it follows that mental anguish is mental pain. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anguish

I don't think panic over inducing a drowning reflex is a disruption of the senses or personality - they are making them quite aware of the sense of drowning - I don't think panic over inducing a drowning reflex is a disruption of the senses or personality - they are making them quite aware of the sense of drowning - not disrupting that sense.

Dude, you are grasping at straws here. They are creating a sense of drowning when in point of fact the person is not drowning. If that's not a disruption of the senses, nothing is.

39 posted on 05/05/2011 10:20:37 AM PDT by curiosity
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