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Top Secret Stealth Helicopter Program Revealed in Osama Bin Laden Raid: Experts
ABC News ^ | May 4, 2011 | Brian Ross

Posted on 05/04/2011 5:10:31 PM PDT by Jewbacca

Before an elite team of U.S. Navy SEALs executed a daring raid that took down Osama bin Laden, the commandos were able to silently sneak up on their elusive target thanks to what aviation analysts said were top secret, never-before-seen stealth-modified helicopters. In the course of the operation that cost the al Qaeda leader his life, one of the two Blackhawk helicopters that carried the SEALs into bin Laden's Pakistani compound grazed one of the compound's wall and was forced to make a hard landing. With the chopper inoperable, at the end of the mission the SEALs destroyed it with explosives.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: china; helicopter; osama; stealth
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To: Jewbacca
This is a major error.

We should have had two B-1's standing by to deliver 40 2,000lb bombs on the site as soon as the SEALs signaled they were out.

One on top of the other.

41 posted on 05/04/2011 8:21:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nascarnation
And since their best and brightest go into science and engineering..."

... at American universities and then work for American defense contractors...

42 posted on 05/04/2011 8:22:54 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: faucetman
Let me see ...... so they made a “hard landing” AFTER they hit the CONCRETE WALL. That would explain the “hard landing”, but it would seem to be “pilot error” not mechanical failure as first reported.

Yes, and osama on the bottom floor didn't hear a helo crash on that wall and was unarmed....

43 posted on 05/04/2011 8:24:52 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: tanknetter
"(or something other than an H-60 based platform)? "

Looks smaller than a 60 platform with shorter blades.

Almost like the roters were to spin with the speed of an Osprey.

Weird hybrid.

Shorter, thinner frame...smaller, faster blades?

And, of course, stealth angles and coatings everywhere.

44 posted on 05/04/2011 8:31:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: FReepaholic

Holy cow, someone captured Ahmadinejad lurking around the scene!!

Freegards


45 posted on 05/04/2011 8:41:04 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Jewbacca

>> I, for one, am not happy that this tail section survived,

That sucks!


46 posted on 05/04/2011 8:43:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Mariner
We should have had two B-1's standing by to deliver 40 2,000lb bombs on the site as soon as the SEALs signaled they were out.

How would you have expected Pakistan to react to a mysterious -- but massive -- bombing raid?

The Pakis have nukes, after all. Plus, a hard on for India. Not to mention something less than a fail-safe command and control system.

Sure you want to take that chance?

47 posted on 05/04/2011 8:44:33 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Mariner

SO the entire operation was actually a plant of false hitech equipment to redirect the R&D efforts of our enemies away from Whisper Mode.......


48 posted on 05/04/2011 8:47:18 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Mariner

What? and kill innocent, unarmed civilians because our pilot hit a wall? Sorry Dude, I had enough trouble shooting Viet Cong who were using innocent, unarmed civilians as cover.


49 posted on 05/04/2011 8:49:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: FReepaholic

That’s supposed to be the same thing? Of course photos can be deceptive. Looks like the swept wing thing is separate kinda, and flipped upside down. And it seems like there are two rotors with one being more damaged than the other. Perhaps just different angles. Are there any helicopters with two rotors? I freely admit my ignorance in such matters, just relating what the pics look like from my very limited understanding.

Freegards


50 posted on 05/04/2011 8:56:53 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SunTzuWu

That is one cool looking bird.


51 posted on 05/04/2011 8:58:08 PM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

Yes, that was a Comanche frame, not a Blackhawk frame.


52 posted on 05/04/2011 8:58:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Hello, im new to this forum...Ive been a h-60 maintainer both in the military and civilian sides, and I can tell you that this “STEALTH” helicopter is in fact based on an H-60, on foxnews slide show, the 5 picture shows a burned mass which is the main rotor, I can clearly see a Pitch control rod attached to the pitch horn on the main rotor, the h-60 as we all know has been around a long time now, I wouldnt put it pass the enginners to make a stealth hybrid of the basic h-60 airframe using h-60 componants.


53 posted on 05/04/2011 9:07:28 PM PDT by Jolly119
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To: Jolly119

So one is the main rotor and the other is the tail rotor?

Freegards from an ignorant Freeper


54 posted on 05/04/2011 9:17:04 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

In response to the question of one is the main rotor and tail rotor, the pictures that we are seeing in the media has to be part of the tail rotor system, the mass in image 5 on foxnews is or was the main rotor system...after looking at it closer i can see the mast extension, i can see i think is an engine, under the extension is the main transmission. in the pictures where it was laying up against the wall i can see the drive shafts, the piping you see pointing up at the sky.


55 posted on 05/04/2011 9:31:30 PM PDT by Jolly119
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To: Jolly119

Thanks. Welcome to FR!

Freegards


56 posted on 05/04/2011 9:39:18 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Evil Slayer
The disc, or "Frisbee" on the tail rotor is armor to protect the linkage from rpg's and other ground fire. The odd angles on what was left are for deflection of shrapnel.

That's probably incorrect. In order to protect the linkage from rpgs, ground-fire, shrapnel, etc the "frisbee" would have to be armored. First, it doesn't look like it is. Second, armoring an airframe adds weight. Lots of weight. Which will cause all sorts of challenges, especially for a helicopter. Reduced load, reduced range, reduced speed, etc.

Cutting weight, keeping weight down is critical. I have a good friend of mine who's Dad flew B-52s as a radar-navigator, and is a member of the 100-mission club for combat missions during Vietnam out of Anderson in Guam. During one of the missions his plane had to divert to an in-country airbase (Da Nang, I think) and while it was being repaired a friend of him stationed there took him for mission in a UH-1. While out they started to draw ground fire and my friend's Dad tried to take cover behind one of the sliding doors. The door gunner reached into his pocket, pulled out a ballpoint pen, and drove it THROUGH the aircraft's skin. To make the point that the thin skin of a helicopter wasn't going to provide a heck of a lot of protection.

The tailboom that is in those pictures is clearly (to me anyways> one that has been optimized, through faceting, for stealth.
57 posted on 05/05/2011 4:02:56 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Evil Slayer

“Its just not what you think. I am a helicopter pilot and I work for a major helicopter manufacturer. Rotor noise is reduced at the blade tips. The disc, or “Frisbee” on the tail rotor is armor to protect the linkage from rpg’s and other ground fire. The odd angles on what was left are for deflection of shrapnel. It may have the secret metallic paint, but that’s about it...it’s still just a k or l model blackhawk...sorry to burst any bubbles.”

Utter nonsense.

The disc, for one, is not beefy enough to be armored.

Plus, I’ve seen my share of stealth weaponry, and this has all the telltale obtuse angles.

A helicopter is never going to be as stealthy as a fixed-wing plane -— too many moving parts -— but it flies close to the ground, so radar sucks there anyway.

These birds flew deep into Pakistan, TO WITHIN 1000 METRES OF A MAJOR MILITARY BASE, and out and the Paki radar didn’t catch them on the way in and the jets didn’t catch them on the way out.

Not possible without some level of stealth.

The fact that any part of this bird survived to be given to the Chinese is a F-—KUP of Obamaian proportions.


58 posted on 05/05/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: moehoward
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59 posted on 05/05/2011 8:06:49 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

“It’s got some Comanche ovetones to it.”

Of course.

This reeks of highly-modified Blackhawk, which, like the sadly abandoned Comanche, is also a Sikorsky product.


60 posted on 05/05/2011 8:07:44 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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