Posted on 05/08/2011 5:20:44 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
Delta Force was involved in the raid on Bin Laden’s compound?
Wow, that’s the first I had heard. I thought it was an all-Navy SEAL operation.
“Sheesh. No wonder they say their’s is the toughest in the military, probably in the world.”
From what I’ve read, the tests necessary to become part of the US Army’s Delta Force are incredibly strenuous too. Eric Haney detailed a lot of it in his book “Inside Delta Force”.
Regardless of whose testing is toughest, I’m so very glad we have people like that protecting us!
DEVGRU and the Army's Delta Force train together and deploy together on counter-terrorist missions usually as part of a joint special operations task force (JSOTF).[3][7][15][16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEVGRU
De oppresso liber.
That was the UDT teams. They didn’t specialize in direct action roles until JFK created the SEALs.
FWIW, I took my 78 year-old neighbor shooting this Saturday. He was with UDT 2 at Inchon. Loved shooting my CAR-15 and Glock.
It’s a lot more than just the # of pushups etc. It’s a lot of other stress and phobia testing. Fear of heights, claustrophobia etc to ANY degree means a drop from BUD/S. BUD/S trainees (I was one) swim laps in a pool with feet tied together and hands tied behind the back. And get stuff off the bottom of the deepend with their teeth, while so bound. That’s just one example in one area. You can be an olympic athlete. That does NOT mean you can do all of the many many stress and phobia tests in every area you can imagine.
See 47, and let me add to your comment. The BUD/S screening physical is hard but not too hard, deliberately. A lot of sailors are coming from a destroyer or sub etc. To start them off on day one at a third-month pace (in any activity, running, swimming etc) would mean that the sailors who just spent months in shore duty working out all day would have way too much of an advantage, but really proving nothing but that they started in better shape. The run/swim/o-course times decrease weekly, while the calisthenic reps increase. It’s more mental than physical, if by physical you mean run/swim times. It’s the heart and the mindset that cound much more. And not having an phobias or weaknesses. They must be well rounded. A olympian stud with an achilles heel will NOT make it.
Special Forces training is just as arduous as SEAL training. The reason for the higher fail rate in SEALs is twofold primarily.
1) Special Forces recruits historically come from Ranger, Airborne and Infantry units, where they have already been exposed to some of the physical/mental toughening that they will encounter in SF Training.
Conversely, Naval SEAL recruits don’t have the “training ground” of units that will prepare recruits for the unbelievably tough training they will encounter in SEAL Training.
2) Although SF has swimming and scuba training, much of this happens in the Teams. In SEAL training, due to task niche, SEALs have much more endurance swimming and SCUBA which deselects people not familiar or comfortable with the water and underwater environment.
Needless to say, our Special Operations guys are the best in the world, especially with our technological advantages of time sensitive intel, entry and extraction and communication, command and control.
Yes, the Israelis, Germans and Brits are right up there...but I’ll take our guys any day of the week. I like the American fighting man and his creativity today and everyday.
They must be well rounded. A olympian stud with an achilles heel will NOT make it.
Yep...
My achilles heel was that I found out I was a little clostraphobic (sp?)...
They were interested in how it made me feel, I simply told them I felt like I always needed to know I had a way out of something...I could take getting into something tight, but I just needed a way out...
Its another reason I didn’t go to Subs...
I still felt like I had a great career though...Learned a lot, experienced a lot, served with some great people all up and down the chain...
If they ever could create a pill for clostraphobia, my career could have taken a different path...
You must be one of those ‘Amish’ fellows we hear so much about on the FReerepublic! 8)
Maybe you were one of those warriors that were covering MY a$$ in nam?
Cheers!
Good one — circulated.
Id imagine swimming while hogtied would wash out a considerable percentage, as would all the other deliberate phobia enhanced training requirements...
LOL...I wish I could take credit for that, I can’t remember who posted it, but I laughed for a couple of days every time I thought of it. I just liked the “US Navy SEALS like this...” at the bottom...:)
All of the military Sec Ops (Army, Navy, Air Force & Marine) branches are tough as hell, and the entrance qualifications are pretty much the same for all. Those that can survive the cut, then then go on to their individual specialties, but none of them who are any tougher then the others. They are all tough, physically and mentally.
Still ugly, but I have your back. ;^) Thank you, Sir for you for your service and God bless you and all the military teams.
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