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A tale of 2 employment surveys, at a glance
ap ^ | May. 06, 2011

Posted on 05/08/2011 3:10:23 PM PDT by george76

The economy gained 244,000 net jobs in April - the third straight month of solid gains. Yet the unemployment rate rose from 8.8 percent to 9 percent. How did that happen? It's because the government relies on two surveys for those figures, and they can diverge sharply from time to time.

One is called the payroll survey. It asks companies and government agencies how many people they employ...

The other is called the household survey. Government workers ask households about the employment status of adults living there. Those without jobs are asked whether they're looking for one. If they're not, they're no longer considered part of the work force and aren't counted as unemployed. The household survey produces the unemployment rate each month.

In April, the household survey painted a gloomier picture than its counterpart. It showed that the number of people who say they have a job fell by nearly 200,000 last month, while the number of unemployed rose by a similar amount. That pushed the unemployment rate up.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employment; household; householdsurvey; payroll; payrollsurvey; unemployment

1 posted on 05/08/2011 3:10:25 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76
While most Americans likely focus more on the unemployment rate, economists generally prefer the jobs figures from the payroll survey.


Thats because the so called economists are either Keynsians or academic in Obamas pocket! I bet they are not the ones trying to find a job now!!

2 posted on 05/08/2011 3:20:22 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Nat Turner

Of course, earlier, they said the opposite.


3 posted on 05/08/2011 3:30:23 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: george76
Government workers ask households about the employment status of adults living there.

What could go wrong?

4 posted on 05/08/2011 3:33:51 PM PDT by relictele
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To: Gondring
Its really funny how 5% unemployment and $2 dollar a gallon gas under Bush was the "WORST ECONOMY" since the great depression but 10% unemployment and $4 gas under Obama is great for families and the environment...


I know the media is really in the tank for the one so that is not a surprise, what is surprising is all the koolaid drinkers that actually believe it!!!

5 posted on 05/08/2011 3:37:04 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: george76
Keep in mind that 175,000 of the newly “created” jobs are nothing more than a guess. The BLS assumes that business creation accounts for that.
6 posted on 05/08/2011 3:40:19 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: george76
If they're not, they're no longer considered part of the work force and aren't counted as unemployed.

How absurd is that?
To state it a bit differently, they no longer exist. The main purpose of government statistics is to demagogue; to lie, to spin, to make things appear, if not "good," at least not as bad as they really are.

How about the CPI? Ya think that removing the most pressing family necessities from the "package" actually reflects the financial reality for most working and tax-paying people?

7 posted on 05/08/2011 3:51:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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Bush was accused wrongly about creating Burger flipping jobs.

Yet we know if they look at the jobs being created under Obama are low wage jobs

Even though the unemployment numbers and lies about the WORST ECONOMY sense the Great Depression

Where was Obama under Carter , I know I am a racist for asking. Obama if he had Carter's unemployment, He does have the inflation but its changed the way it calculated.

8 posted on 05/08/2011 4:26:01 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Nat Turner

“I know the media is really in the tank for the one so that is not a surprise, what is surprising is all the koolaid drinkers that actually believe it!!!”

There are a lot less Kool-aid drinkers than the Ministry of Propaganda would lead you to believe; NJ elected Chris Christie and Massachusetts elected Scott Brown a year after Obama carried both states (and a year before the mid-term “shellacking”). Whatever criticisms people have for these individuals, they are hardly “Obamunists”; those elections were rightly viewed as the first repudiations of Obama and his policies.


9 posted on 05/08/2011 5:48:52 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Nat Turner

I had a girlfriend back around 2004 (before I met my wife, don’t spread rumors) who was a public screwl teacher and a lib. Yeah, I know...well that’s one of 40 reasons the relationship ended.

Anyway, she would rail about how the economy sucked so bad because of Bush...at a time when gas was UNDER $2/gal and unemployment was under 5%!

I asked her what she was smoking and she mumbled something about Bush cooking the numbers.

She was liberal, weird, wasn’t even particularly cute and she was kind of a bore. I can’t tell you why I ever dated her...but I digress...I guess I was bored.


10 posted on 05/13/2011 10:37:01 AM PDT by RockinRight (Herman Cain 2012)
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Don’t feel back Rockin...we all have to cross the aisle when dating (most conservative chicks ain’t easy LOL!!)


11 posted on 05/13/2011 8:05:02 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Nat Turner

Funny thing is, this one wasn’t either!!


12 posted on 05/13/2011 8:20:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (Thanking Obama for the death of Bin Laden is like thanking Ronald McDonald for your burger.)
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