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State Gets $30 Million For High Speed Rail; Amount Far Less Than Requested
The Hartford Courant ^ | May 9, 2011 | DON STACOM

Posted on 05/09/2011 12:12:04 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

After lobbying federal officials hard and long for $270 million for the Springfield-to-New Haven high-speed rail project, Connecticut landed just $30 million Monday.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced the distribution of $2 billion for fast train projects, and Connecticut was counting on a hefty share.

Despite earlier signals from LaHood that Connecticut and the rest of the Northeast stood a solid chance, he ended up giving more than half the money to projects in the Midwest and California.

Despite heavy traffic congestion and dense population, Connecticut got less than 2 percent of the funding.

"Any money for high-speed rail is good, but I'm disappointed, Sen. Richard Blumenthal said by phone Monday morning. "This isn't as much as we deserve and need. I can tell you I'll continue working for other money for this."

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: amtrak; highspeedrail; traffic; trains

1 posted on 05/09/2011 12:12:13 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The stupid thing about this is you can only get up to speeds like that if you take Acela and it’s expensive as hell.

The other amusing thing is that Conrail runs the lines in MA and I was told that they limit the speeds to 50mph. I don’t know if Acela is exempt from that or not.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 12:14:30 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Any money for high-speed rail is wasted. If we build 90% of the track, the best use of that last 10% is to give it back to the taxpayers and not spend it on rail. This is a huge waste of money that will cost more to run than it is worth even if we could get it for free.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 12:15:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
CT is a deep blue state with 2 senators and 1 congressman (right?). Those funds are mostly going to purple states where they need the votes.

What am I missing?

4 posted on 05/09/2011 12:17:04 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Night Hides Not
CT is a deep blue state with 2 senators and 1 congressman (right?).

You're thinking of Delaware. I believe CT has 5 Reps.

5 posted on 05/09/2011 12:22:14 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Peter from Rutland
The stupid thing about this is you can only get up to speeds like that if you take Acela and it’s expensive as hell.

Joe Biden took it every day...it must be affordable! He wouldn't stick the taxpayer with hundreds of dollars a day on commuting costs, would he?

6 posted on 05/09/2011 12:24:22 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

More than $400 million will go toward a Chicago-Detroit connection and $300 million is directed at advancing the San Francisco-Los Angeles line.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 12:24:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Peter from Rutland
The other amusing thing is that Conrail runs the lines in MA and I was told that they limit the speeds to 50mph.

I believe you mean CSX. Conrail hasn't been around for a while.

I don’t know if Acela is exempt from that or not.

Acela trains only run on the Boston-New York-DC line, which is a dedicated to Amtrak. There's no way to run an Acela train at full speed on a freight line.

8 posted on 05/09/2011 12:25:15 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Connecticut is one of the richest, one of the heaviest taxed and one of the most densely populated states in the country. If they cannot come up with their own money to make high speed rail work here, just where is it going to work?


9 posted on 05/09/2011 12:25:18 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

30 Million?

Heck, that isn’t enough to even pay for the graft and local payoffs to build a single train station along the rail line.


10 posted on 05/09/2011 12:27:16 PM PDT by digger48
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To: LurkedLongEnough

High spend rail for a 60 mile run.
30 Million US taxpayer dollars.
$2 Million per mile.

And still they press on to build more projects like this.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 12:27:16 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Peter from Rutland

They’ll take the 30 and say, “Hell, it ain’t enough ... may as well build a new race track (or something)”


12 posted on 05/09/2011 12:27:45 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

We got more rail money here in Michigan too. Pretty stupid considering that it can’t even leave the state since Ohio and Indiana have said “no thanks” to high speed rail.


13 posted on 05/09/2011 12:27:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: LurkedLongEnough

If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. Time was when you didn’t have to say something so obvious to adults.


14 posted on 05/09/2011 12:29:35 PM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The Slow speed rail that Doyle was planning to build in WI from Madison to Milwaukee was going to cost $65 one way. The Badger Bus between the two cities costs $35 round trip. Let me see, which one will I choose?


15 posted on 05/09/2011 12:36:41 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: kabar

Gov Snyder of Michigan has rejected High Speed Rail funding. That won’t happen.


16 posted on 05/09/2011 12:38:22 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
State Gets $30 Million For High Speed Rail;

That's just to cover the necessary bribes and payoffs. More will be sent later. Its the CHICAGO way.

17 posted on 05/09/2011 12:38:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: LurkedLongEnough

$30 million doesn’t buy a lot of track, but it buys a lot of votes. Democrats - using your money for their benefit.


18 posted on 05/09/2011 12:40:12 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Despite heavy traffic congestion and dense population, Connecticut got less than 2 percent of the funding.

Dense population! I've been to CT. This is SO true.

19 posted on 05/09/2011 12:42:01 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

CT should just borrow the money from a bank. They can then repay the loan from the revenues generated by the project. If they are not going to make a return, they should not build the project.


20 posted on 05/09/2011 12:45:36 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

FL’s Rick Scott is looking smart already. I guarantee we have about 10 years of stories like this of failed, unused systems and cost over-runs by the billions.


21 posted on 05/09/2011 12:46:08 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Onelifetogive

You forget that it’s CT so the federal govt is their bank... Chris Dodd & all.


22 posted on 05/09/2011 12:49:02 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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23 posted on 05/09/2011 12:49:12 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Why would anyone want to take a high-speed train to Springfield or New Haven?


24 posted on 05/09/2011 12:51:03 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Texas resident

30 million could buy a Boeing 737 that would make the 60 mile trip in about 9 minutes. Possibly its nosewheel could set down on a rail.


25 posted on 05/09/2011 12:51:43 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: LurkedLongEnough

30 mil will barely cover the environmental impact study.


26 posted on 05/09/2011 12:52:31 PM PDT by toast
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To: Night Hides Not

Feeding the alligator, hoping he eats you last.


27 posted on 05/09/2011 12:54:36 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

You can get the bus from Boston to New York City (through CT) and it only costs $1 - if price is the object. There has been a powerful construction conspiracy in CT for years.


28 posted on 05/09/2011 12:55:06 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Stupid Conn Democrats....

Obama needs MIDWEST votes to win, he’s got YOURS locked up.


29 posted on 05/09/2011 12:55:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

There has been a powerful construction conspiracy

mmmm.....yes, let’s see....what were those guys’ names again?......Tony, Uncle Junior, Pauly Walnuts....


30 posted on 05/09/2011 12:59:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Thunder90
Gov Snyder of Michigan has rejected High Speed Rail funding. That won’t happen.

If true that would be awesome. I know he's been pro choo choo but he seems pretty pragmatic.
31 posted on 05/09/2011 1:04:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: popdonnelly
Why would anyone want to take a high-speed train to Springfield or New Haven?

To get to New York or Boston.

32 posted on 05/09/2011 1:16:00 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: cripplecreek
I know he's been pro choo choo but he seems pretty pragmatic.

No idea of Gov. Snyder's opinions on this subject, but while I think Trains deserve consideration, and the Detroit to Chicago line would be near what could break even time wise, I have strong doubts about the viability of any specific project. Part of the problem on the Detroit end is, Where is the station going to be? (many from the suburbs will not go into the city). Which comes to point two, how many people realistically are going to ride it and would this number of fare payers cover the costs of running the system. Will the system have enough parking for those trying to ride it, if not lower the number of potential customers. These are details that do matter if this is going to anything more than a vote buying scheme.

33 posted on 05/09/2011 1:47:53 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: Fraxinus

There won’t be a train. They can’t even fund a demo of a dedicated run between Detroit and Ann Arbor.


34 posted on 05/09/2011 1:59:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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