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LSU American flag burning stopped before it could start
www.2theadvocate.com ^ | May 11, 2011 | Jordan Blum

Posted on 05/11/2011 5:34:38 PM PDT by BBell

A planned American flag burning at LSU ended before it started Wednesday when about 1,000 LSU students and other protestors forced police to intervene.

LSU graduate student Benjamin Haas had originally planned to burn an American flag at noon on the Parade Ground to promote his First Amendment rights and to support an LSU student who was arrested last week for stealing and burning a flag.

But, when Haas finally arrived to a chaotic scene, he was surrounded by a large crowd yelling obscenities and chanting, “U-S-A” and “Go to hell hippie, go to hell.”

Water balloons and bottles were thrown at him and, before Haas could speak, horse-mounted police escorted him out for his own safety to a police car on Highland Road as the crowd followed and he was driven off. He was not arrested.

Haas had received a peaceful protest permit from LSU, but he had not yet obtained a burn permit from the city-parish, according to LSU.

Haas is a communication studies graduate student from Missouri who also teaches some classes.

LSU senior Sarah Kirksey, who also is a communication studies major, purchased more than 100 American flags for the counter protest. She described Haas as “brilliant,” but misguided on this point.

“We chased him out,” Kirksey said. “He didn’t burn the flag, so it was a success.

“It’s awesome. I’m proud to say I’m an LSU Tiger,” she added.

Haas’ plans developed after LSU student Isaac Eslava was arrested last week for cutting down and burning the American flag at the LSU War Memorial on the Parade Ground.

Eslava, a native of Colombia, allegedly burned the flag early May 2 just hours after the death of Osama bin Laden.

Although Haas did not speak Wednesday, a transcript of his remarks said he wanted to defend “basic human rights and avoid putting students into the criminal justice system when it can (be) taken care of internally.”

“In the name of peace, there will be no flag burning today,” Haas’ speech stated. “This country and the flag that flies over it stands for freedom, democracy, love, peace and the ability to question our government.”

About 200 or so of the students and military veterans stuck around afterwards to recite the pledge of allegiance and sing the national anthem as part of a response protest.

New LSU Student Government President Cody Wells led that response. “We were outraged by what a student tried to do and burn a flag on our campus,” Wells said, later adding, “I’ve been so proud of what happened here today.”

Some students who protested Haas said they respected his First Amendment rights, but opposed his tactics in wanting to burn the flag.

“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should,” said LSU senior Mac Francez.

But others were unsettled by the mob mentality that took over.

LSU associate professor of rhetoric Nathan Crick, who is in the communication studies department, said the “original motive” is irrelevant, especially after opposition spread so quickly on Facebook and Twitter.

“The real story is the rapidity and ease by which a group of otherwise intelligent, sympathetic students were transformed into an impulsive mob by the power of social media,” Crick said in an e-mail statement. “This should give us all pause.”

Marjorie Esman, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana, said she was concerned that LSU Police crowd control did not even permit Haas time to speak.

“It would appear that, rather than protect the rights of the student to speak, the police protected the rights of those trying to silence him,” Esman said.

Prior to Haas’ arrival, the large crowd was hovering at Free Speech Alley when a heated argument began after LSU student Shelby Taylor of Baton Rouge spoke out in favor of Haas’ First Amendment rights, even though Taylor said she opposed burning an American flag.

There were yells directed at her of “Whore” and, “Go get your flag-burning buddy; we want him next.”

LSU student and U.S. Marine Austin Stukins told her, “I respect your rights, and I respect your right to be wrong and, I hope you will respect my right in return to tell you to shut the f--- up.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: flagburner; leftwinglooney; lsu
Got to love the South

LSU graduate student Benjamin Haas is hit by a water balloon thrown by counter-protestors Wednesday as he attempts to read a prepared statement about why he decided not to burn an American flag at the LSU Parade Ground. Haas was escorted away by po-lice for safety reasons before he had a chance to speak. Haas had originally planned to burn an American flag to assert his First Amendment rights and in support of another LSU student who was arrested last week for cutting down and burning the American flag at the LSU War Memorial.

1 posted on 05/11/2011 5:34:47 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Way to go, Bayou Bengals!


2 posted on 05/11/2011 5:37:45 PM PDT by izzatzo
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To: izzatzo

That liquid should have been yellow.


3 posted on 05/11/2011 5:39:07 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: BBell

That is a GREAT picture... probably the first time in a little while that that lib had a wash, anyway


4 posted on 05/11/2011 5:42:37 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: mark3681

If you want yellow, there’s plenty of it in the good Perfessor Crick-you can tell what his color is by his comments.


5 posted on 05/11/2011 5:43:53 PM PDT by izzatzo
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To: BBell
Good for those fine LSU students. They know they have a right to protect the flag. They also have a responsibility to promote good fire safety. I can't say enough good things about those kids. The LSU Tigers are a different matter entirely.
6 posted on 05/11/2011 5:44:54 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: oyez

outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 05/11/2011 5:47:05 PM PDT by itsLUCKY2B (?Borders, Language, and Culture.?)
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To: BBell

A job well done. Great going LSU students.

It’s encouraging to see this happen with university students.


8 posted on 05/11/2011 5:49:34 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: BBell

Those Cajuns can be pretty vociferous.

Two Cajuns hired me for a day job back in 1965. All 3 of us worked hard all day. They bought me lunch then when the job was over, one of them paid me twice what we agreed on.

I have had a warm spot in my heart for them ever since.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 5:50:32 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: BBell

What a great picture!

Honestly, every last one of these mopes looks the same -


10 posted on 05/11/2011 5:51:32 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: BBell
The new Bush Doctrine, Preemptive Fire Fighting.
11 posted on 05/11/2011 5:55:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: BBell

Haas and Crick seem to be confusing LSU with Berkeley.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 6:00:32 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: BBell

An Associate Professor states, “The real story is the rapidity and ease by which a group of otherwise intelligent, sympathetic students were transformed into an impulsive mob by the power of social media,” Crick said in an e-mail statement. “This should give us all pause.”

Wonder if this “Associate Professor” was given “pause” over the mob mentality in Madison, Wisconsin. The “professor” probably applauded that that mob’s “free speech.”


13 posted on 05/11/2011 6:02:17 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: BBell

God Bless those LSU kids.


14 posted on 05/11/2011 6:03:20 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: BBell

Wow, something almost happened!

15 posted on 05/11/2011 6:06:33 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BBell

Nice start. Hope more of Haas’ ilk get are treated with the “respect” they deserve. These anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-Christian bottom feeders have worn American’s patience thin over the years. The tide is turning.


16 posted on 05/11/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: BBell
“after opposition spread so quickly on Facebook and Twitter.

“The real story is the rapidity and ease by which a group of otherwise intelligent, sympathetic students were transformed into an impulsive mob by the power of social media,” Crick said in an e-mail statement. “This should give us all pause.”

******************* Glad to know “opposition” forces can be gathered so quickly. Hope when we need to do it - the Internet won't “go down.”

17 posted on 05/11/2011 6:16:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the otherhand)
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To: BBell

Oh to be young and have water balloons and a stinky hippy to pelt. LSU knows how to party.


19 posted on 05/11/2011 6:29:11 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: onevoter

“An Associate Professor states...” (followed by normal liberal tripe).

Anyone wanna guess which department of marshmallow academic requirements this loon comes from?


20 posted on 05/11/2011 6:41:12 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

I am proud of our cubs!


21 posted on 05/11/2011 6:53:36 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Da Coyote

I am proud of our cubs!


22 posted on 05/11/2011 6:53:47 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: mark3681; therightliveswithus

My daughter said they should have put soap in the water balloons. The stinking hippie probably needed a bath.


23 posted on 05/11/2011 6:56:56 PM PDT by BBell
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To: sportutegrl

“Oh to be young and have water balloons and a stinky hippy to pelt. LSU knows how to party.”

ROFLOL!!


24 posted on 05/11/2011 7:03:04 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Da Coyote

Didn’t the article say the same dept. as Haas? Communications? Need to go back and read it again to be sure, but think that’s what it was.


25 posted on 05/11/2011 7:04:10 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: BBell
Jackie Broyles approves of this thread


26 posted on 05/11/2011 7:05:39 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

just another lefty attention whore...GTF outta here Haas...your 15 minutes are up.


27 posted on 05/11/2011 7:23:33 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Tainan

Anyone want to guess how soon the name “Sarah Palin” will find its way into the bammy presstitute account of this situation? His whores will be right on this, just as soon as they can remove their collective probisci from the rectum of “the poet”.


28 posted on 05/11/2011 8:59:50 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: BBell

While he does have the right to free speach he DOES NOT have the right to be heard.

The thousand + students there were exercising their right to free speach alongside him ... he had the right not to listen.

I am from Texas, all my life
God Bless you LSU Tigers !

(and for those of you from elsewhere THAT means something)


29 posted on 05/12/2011 12:04:00 AM PDT by sawmill trash
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To: izzatzo

Now THIS is close to the South I grew up in.

Yes, you have the right to make your little speeches and burn our flag. We, on the other hand, have the right to not listen and to kick your butt. See how well that works out?

GEAUX TIGERS!!!


30 posted on 05/12/2011 2:25:30 AM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: Da Coyote

My guess would be journalism. If you are a failure at everything else go for journalism - one of those vocations that doesn’t require any particular skill.


31 posted on 05/12/2011 4:08:19 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: BBell

Someone should have burned a Mexican flag to see how the university would have reacted.


32 posted on 05/12/2011 6:35:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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