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To: fwdude

Good grief. I am REALLY trying not to insult you. I’ve watched you on FR for a while and agree with most of what you have to say so I am going to try even harder (maybe having a stroke in the process) to do my best to not devolve this into an insult contest. Here goes nothing;

From the link that I sent you that you clearly have not followed; “The solution is to unlink the religious institution of marriage — as distinguished from the secular institution of civil union — from the state. Under this proposal, ANY couple could register for CIVIL UNION, recognized by the state, with all its rights and responsibilities.”

IOW, if you and your spouse went to big brother in order to get the government recognized “civil union” then no, your spouse could NOT be forced to testify against you in a court of law.

Basically right now we have a system that says that you can get married in a courthouse w/o church involvement, but you just try finding a cleric that will marry you w/o state permission. I want to see that situation done away with.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 6:21:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (The nomination of Herman Cain takes more than half the ammo away from the race hustlers)
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To: Grunthor
Under this proposal, ANY couple could register for CIVIL UNION, recognized by the state, with all its rights and responsibilities.

Whew! Finally!!! I suspected that you were getting at this, but for some reason didn't want to express it as, "government-recognized civil union for all, but no recognized marriage."

Only now you have to explain why it is not okay for the government to be in the "marriage business" but is perfectly alright, for some reason, to be in the "civil union business."

34 posted on 05/12/2011 7:00:46 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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