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Trend: Dropouts might lose drivers licenses
Deseret News ^ | 4/20/11 | Sara Lenz

Posted on 05/16/2011 9:14:03 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

They are going to create undocumented drivers.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 10:01:35 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I would like to see a state pass an amendment stating driving is a RIGHT not a mere privilege.

put some due process on there.


42 posted on 05/16/2011 10:02:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Libloather

That is ridicoulus. There are plenty of people that didn’t finish high school out there being very successful running businesses.

I know of several people running businesses who went back and got their GED years later. This is just another control freak idea from the government.

“You must finish a degree through our schools, or you won’t be allowed to lead a life at all.” I hope people fight this for all they’re worth.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Libloather

This is pure social engineering. A license is given based on your ability to pass written and driving tests to prove you can competently drive a car. Period.

This is a typical “who cares about the long term ramifications”, feel good liberal solution to a problem.

How’d that “Great Society” thing work out for the black family - what’s left of it anyway?


44 posted on 05/16/2011 10:03:35 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Jonty30
One size does not fit all.

One of my grandson's dropped out at 10th grade. He wanted to learn and all he was getting was Socialist indoctrination. He signed up for an accredited online high school and became such a regular at the local library, following his independent study, that they set him up with a ‘private office’ up on the third floor - sunny room with a desk

He went on through a year at college and then went into the Army. He progressed on to the most decorated unit in the Army, the 173rd AIRBORNE - served a total, so far, of 2 1/2 yrs in Afghanistan. His platoon's story has been made famous by Sebastian Junger and Tim Hetherington’s movie “RESTREPO” - was nominated for Academy Award - Dcumentary. (They were also featured on ABC doc., and several magazie articles.) My grandson is now, at 25, an officer with a chest full of medals.

His future is bright.

Rather than further punishing dropouts, why not turn the attention to the failure to educate in our schools?

Think of of the college dropouts, like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Sir Richard Branson, Ted Nugent, Mark Zuckerberg, etc -

One size does not fit all.

And I still fail to understand how yanking the drivers license from someone who's behind on child support payments helps the situation. Yank the license, now they can't get to and from a job. Yeah, that makes sense. (The original rational was to keep them from skipping the state. WTF? You can take a bus, a plane, WALK outta state. AT least,it they had a driver's license, they'd be easier to track down.)

So they prevent kids from getting a license because they didn't stay in school- will they increase that to include kids in homeschool, taking accredited online school? What's the real concern? Is it that they'll lack education or indoctrination?

45 posted on 05/16/2011 10:03:46 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: Libloather
"Driving is not a right, it's a privilege"

No, it's a freedom.

Any time a freedom is restricted, free men ought to be very suspicious - and demand there be a darned good reason for it.

"and it's perfectly within bounds for the state government to expect a quid pro quo when it comes to extending privileges"

That's not a good reason. That's a tyrant talking.
46 posted on 05/16/2011 10:06:34 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: The Sons of Liberty

That reminds me of a story my mother used to tell about an eighth grader that drove his Mercedes to school sitting on a phone book because he was so short. Let’s just say the child allegedly had some income that wasn’t kosher.

People used to say “But you need to be 16 to have a license.”

Her response, “So?”

Unless you have to swipe a driver’s license to start a car, I don’t see this being to effective (I hope big brother isn’t watching, since I may have hatched another idea).


47 posted on 05/16/2011 10:13:44 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: Libloather

I haven’t had a drivers license in many years. It just isn’t worth it anymore. I drive everyday. If I get stopped, I just tell them I left my wallet at home, and then just deal with it. I haven’t been stopped in 5 years.

My dad “legally” owns my car. So I dont give a crap about this anymore.

If everybody would refuse to get a license, they would stop issuing them.


48 posted on 05/16/2011 10:14:46 AM PDT by FoxPro
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To: runninglips

You Wrote: “I think we should not allow anyone still in school to drive at all,”

Dang it! Leave People ALONE!!!!!!!

Everybody wants to force everybody else into THEIR box.

I hate the village. To hell with it. To hell with the Nanny State. We need rugged self sufficient individualist. Not Pavlovian monkeys!

How about we don’t “allow” people to think up stupid laws and call city hall.

Or we don’t allow teeth brushing amongst people born with extra wisdom teeth, “just to even it out”.


49 posted on 05/16/2011 10:14:46 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: NativeSon

Criminals in suits love the criminals on the streets because they are both down with the struggle.


50 posted on 05/16/2011 10:20:44 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: LearsFool; All
This draconian march to control our every breath is going to get a lot worse.

The Indiana Supreme Court just ended the “Castle law” that has been our right since 1215...not to mention that pesky 4th Amendment thing. (These minds exist and are in power.)

” a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence”

http://www.theagitator.com/2011/05/13/indiana-court-you-have-no-right-to-keep-cops-out-of-your-house/

You cannot resist an “UNLAWFUL police entry” into your home??? "with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence" - MODERN? This one better make it's way to the SCOTUS Quick - and pray we don't get even one more Marxist on the court.

51 posted on 05/16/2011 10:25:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: momtothree
No driver’s license if you aren’t currently employed?

Shhhhhhh.

That's such an excellent way of keeping people on the Dem plantation, that I'm amazed no one has tried it yet.

52 posted on 05/16/2011 10:29:22 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Libloather
Somehow I don't think forcing 17 year olds to be in high school against their will is terribly beneficial for the schools in question.

How about the schools improve their curriculum & instruction so the kids who want to learn are offered something useful?

The real deadbeats aren't worth wasting tax dollars on - maybe time in the real world will wise them up.

53 posted on 05/16/2011 10:35:30 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: Libloather

Years ago I saw a news show about West Virginia taking away the licenses of drop outs. They showed this kid who was about 16 or 17 and already married with kids. He had a job so he could support his family but when he lost his license he lost his job. School is not for everyone I guess.


54 posted on 05/16/2011 10:37:20 AM PDT by BBell
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To: momtothree
Not too many points, driving while intoxicated etc... What’s next? No driver license if you don’t have a college degree? No driver’s license if you aren’t currently employed? This is insanity

Yes, you are absolutely correct. I don't like the concept of linkage. In California, you can lose your driving privilege (an Orwellian concept if there ever was one) for not paying child support or even being late. That's scary. You should only lose your driving rights for the aforementioned vehicle code violations. Nothing else should be sufficient.
55 posted on 05/16/2011 10:40:06 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy

But in California, if you are an illegal alien, can they even enforce auto insurance, much less a license?

I mean, how far do the “sanctuary city” laws go?


56 posted on 05/16/2011 10:45:19 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: maine-iac7

It’s all about money. By not being in school, the state government loses funding.


57 posted on 05/16/2011 10:45:59 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: truthguy

I know a guy who dropped out and split driving a cab with his brother. Now he owns a fleet of cabs, vans, luxury buses and services the city police department vehicles.


58 posted on 05/16/2011 10:46:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Vendome

no they are going to create a new fee.

Dropouts will have to apply for a “hardship license” for a set administrative fee and explain WHY they need this and will have to pay extra each year to keep the license.


59 posted on 05/16/2011 10:48:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RobinOfKingston

I remember reading about one southern state, I forget which, that had a law similar to this one’s. They would suspend your license if you got in trouble in school or had too many days out, or just right out quit. The principal of one school said that it’s very hard to get a kid to cooperate with the school in any way if the school is responsible for contacting the motor vehicle department to suspend a kid’s license. They aren’t going to come around and just outright quit.


60 posted on 05/16/2011 10:49:50 AM PDT by goldi (')
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