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To: blasater1960
Where do you get this stuff? Some people take Kabbalah too far to be sure but they are not mainstream Judaism.

Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.
On the other hand, Chritianity is the syncretic religion. It is the original mormonism. The New Testament is "not in the (Hebrew)bible".

Read again what I said, Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not. Same with Judaism, the Karaites being the latter, anti-Talmud and anti-Kabbalah. Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith? I wonder if Dennis Prager agrees with you.
Many other religions at the time of Jesus taught..a virgin birth...resurrected gods...a sacred meal (eucharist)...a god-man hybrid savior..etc. None of these are even remotely Jewish teaching. They were grafted into the new testament by grecco-roman thought.

This is the line Albert Pike, the Luciferian, antichristian, prophet of Freemasonry, takes. Pike, you know, who says the Kabbalah is the basis of Freemasonry. Basing much of their Jewish-like religion on Solomon's temple and various other Jewish symbols. Sounds like you would have a lot in common. Are you a Mason?

144 posted on 05/18/2011 12:25:30 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
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Where do you get this stuff? Some people take Kabbalah too far to be sure but they are not mainstream Judaism.

Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.

On the other hand, Chritianity is the syncretic religion. It is the original mormonism. The New Testament is "not in the (Hebrew)bible".

Read again what I said, Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not. Same with Judaism, the Karaites being the latter, anti-Talmud and anti-Kabbalah. Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith? I wonder if Dennis Prager agrees with you.

Many other religions at the time of Jesus taught..a virgin birth...resurrected gods...a sacred meal (eucharist)...a god-man hybrid savior..etc. None of these are even remotely Jewish teaching. They were grafted into the new testament by grecco-roman thought.

This is the line Albert Pike, the Luciferian, antichristian, prophet of Freemasonry, takes. Pike, you know, who says the Kabbalah is the basis of Freemasonry. Basing much of their Jewish-like religion on Solomon's temple and various other Jewish symbols. Sounds like you would have a lot in common. Are you a Mason?

145 posted on 05/18/2011 12:53:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

“Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites”

Um, no. As already posted, Karaites were a sect that created itself in Iraq about 1300 years ago. It was never “mainstream” Judaism.

They prospered until the muslims and Christians killed them.

Now most reside in Israel, where they are embraced by their fellow Jewish citizens.

The fact you’ve twisted off into masonic conspiracies with the rest of your post confirms you are a nut.


147 posted on 05/18/2011 1:31:11 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: sasportas
Mainstream Judaism is what is represented by the Karaites, not Talmudic Judaism...and certainly not the Kabbalists. You gloss over Kabbalah.

Again...where do you get this stuff? Karaites are not mainstream Judaism. Judaism that accepts the Tanach and the Oral Law is mainstream Judaism. There are many many commandments that are impossible to keep because the Torah does not give explict instructions, for example:

Which four species do you use on Sukkot? How do you not eat blood when cooking? What does it mean "bind them as a sign upon your hand and a reminder between your eyes"? What exactly does it mean you shall do no work on Shabbat? What constitutes work?

You have to have the Oral Law to practice Judaism.

I dont gloss over Kabbalah. I said some take it too far.

Christianity has its syncretic elements, with a remnant that is not.Are you comparing Jesus Christ with Joseph Smith?

There is no such thing as Christianity that is not syncretic. It is an offshoot of Judaism. Mainstream Christianity incorporates virgin birth, ressurected god, a god-man, eating of a god-mans flesh and drinking his blood, human sacrifice for forgiveness of sin...these are all nonjudaic and foreign to the Hebrew scripture but NOT foreign to other religions of that era. No, I am not comparing Jesus to Joseph Smith...the apostle Paul? yes. The gospel writers..yes.

I dont know who Pike is, never heard of him. Kabbalah should only be studied by Jews and Noahides. It should only be taught by an Orthodox Torah observant Jew, trained to do so.

153 posted on 05/18/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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