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Guerena family attorney responds to SWAT lawyer (Wants Pima Sheriff Dupnik to release reports)
KGUN9-TV (ABC) ^ | 5/19/2011 | Craig Smith, Layla Tang

Posted on 05/21/2011 3:46:06 PM PDT by Qbert

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To: GlockThe Vote
No high fives? No dead dog testosterone charging warmup? No shooting grandpa when he reached for his teeth?

No wonder they had to shoot him 71 times! Cop outings have to be fun for the whole crew. I hope they still got to stomp on the surviving family members heads and shout "#uck" and other obscenities at them until they went catatonic?

Sissy Sallies don't know who they're dealing with...../s

61 posted on 05/21/2011 7:38:46 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: TigersEye

He bled out due to gravity at some point. He was most likely somewhat conscious to sounds and light, with hypoxia fogging his critical and abstract thinking. I’m sure the trauma from the bullets shut his central nervous system down quickly. He still experienced something much worse than the pain and that was the horror.


62 posted on 05/21/2011 7:45:33 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: blackdog

No doubt about it.


63 posted on 05/21/2011 7:47:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Qbert; All

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/05/sheriff-dupniks-swat-team-shoots-iraq-war-vet-in-his-home-60-times/

Excerpt”Jose Guerena,... He was asleep in his Tucson home after working a night shift at the Asarco copper mine when his wife, Vanessa, saw the armed SWAT team outside her youngest son’s bedroom window.”

Read the reason they were there - It was “ part of a multi-house drug crackdown, when the team broke down the door. At first the Pima County Sheriff’s Office said that Guerena fired first, but on Wednesday officials backtracked and said he had not. “The safety was on ...

This ‘multi-house crackdown’ is something that a sheriff in IN just announced he would do as a matter of course - with NO reason to suspect anything or anyone in the houses -

PRactice time for Martial Law. Get the goons trained up and the citizens cowed?


64 posted on 05/21/2011 7:48:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Funny, I want life doing the entire squad. Judge out on point with the good Sheriff.


65 posted on 05/21/2011 7:51:17 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: maine-iac7

So far I have seen no statement that they found anything in any of the houses they raided. Very little said about the other houses at all. Were they even raided?


66 posted on 05/21/2011 7:52:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: maine-iac7; All

per link on my statement in post 64 re:

http://www.infowars.com/indiana-sheriff-house-to-house-random-searches-now-possible/

Headline:

“Indiana Sheriff: House to House Random Searches Now Possible “

Folks, this looks like it is becoming accepted practice across the country. Getting ready for Martial Law or trying to keep their funding for all their new SWAT toys?


67 posted on 05/21/2011 7:55:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: maine-iac7
I think you're not quite right on a few points. What we really will see going forward in this time of city and municipality cutbacks, are these specialized super-cop paramilitary style dynamic entries. The reasoning is two-fold. One is to show the community how specialized and important their local cop force turned midnight ninja goons is relevant and needs a continued entry line in the towns budgets. The second is to comply with ongoing homeland security audits for qualifications for federal funding. These paramilitary squads are a creature born of federal guidelines for funding.

It's really about budgets, funding, and use it or lose it thinking. Until the legal settlements exceed the federal and state grants and funding for this crap, it will go on.

68 posted on 05/21/2011 8:01:19 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: hfr
I mean at Waco why didn't the sherrif just go up to the door and knock?

I recall the local sheriff commented he didn't understand why the ATF stormed the compound. They simply could have nabbed him when he went out for his daily run.

Which raises the question why do SWAT teams feel the need to assault homes. Why don't they nab their suspects when they go out on errands.

69 posted on 05/21/2011 8:46:36 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Why don't they nab their suspects when they go out on errands.

Gosh, they wouldn't even get to shoot the dogs!

70 posted on 05/21/2011 9:02:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: blackdog; Repeal The 17th

“I’ve never understood the outrage over how many bullets cops fire at someone. “

It indicates a lack of professionalism. Firing on full auto is NOT the way to hit someone. I was USAF, but when I did a tour in the field with the Army, they taught us to use the 3-shot option, not full auto. They said if you missed with the first 3, you were not likely to hit with the remaining 27...


71 posted on 05/21/2011 9:10:04 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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From Serenity: "In more civilized societies, when someone had failed as spectacularly as you have, he would do the honorable thing and fall on his sword. Or would you like to be killed in your sleep, like a sick pet?"

I paraphrase. The whole swat team needs to be reduced to dog catcher, and a short leash with that. The sheriff needs to do time.

72 posted on 05/21/2011 11:32:45 PM PDT by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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To: Qbert

Just another murder courtesy of Badges Inc.

Nothing to see here, move along.


73 posted on 05/22/2011 4:25:41 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Othniel
...and a short leash with that.

I'd rather see a short rope.

And a tall lamp post.

Five of them, in fact.

74 posted on 05/22/2011 6:19:06 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: hfr
I mean at Waco why didn't the sherrif just go up to the door and knock?

The FEDS (BATF) chose instead a frontal assault of the BD "Compound" to place the agency in the best possible light to make its case for increased funding.

The local sheriff suggested that they (the FEDs) simply knock on the door. Koresh, who was aware of the FEDs interest, told the sheriff that they (the BATF) should just pay a normal visit, as BATF often do when doing inspections, but they chose instead "show time."

When is NCIS going to investigate? Oh, yeah, that's just a bunch of leftists dressed up playing "good cop."

75 posted on 05/22/2011 7:08:51 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: TigersEye; blackdog

>>That is an interesting theory about blood pressure<<

That’s not theory, it’s fact. A couple of rounds damaging the arteries/ veins close to the heart or the heart itself and there will not be any pumping spurts, just oozing blood. Muscle and bone damage are what restrict movements. With 60 rounds in him, I’d say he had extreme examples of both.


76 posted on 05/22/2011 9:08:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: GlockThe Vote
If this were a family member of mine, Iwould personally hunt down each one of these thugs with badges and > > .

And what?

77 posted on 05/22/2011 12:18:06 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: BwanaNdege

Amen, Mr. Birds.


78 posted on 05/23/2011 2:02:35 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: AAABEST
Remember the "SWAT" team at Columbine hiding behind the ambulance?

...and rolling off the roof when the $hit hit the fan...

79 posted on 05/23/2011 2:03:25 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Ken H

5 Hits were the early quote.


80 posted on 05/23/2011 2:43:19 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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