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Spain's ruling Socialists suffer big election loss (biggest defeat in 30 years)
Forbes ^ | 5/22/2011 | AP

Posted on 05/22/2011 2:46:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625

MADRID -- Spain's ruling Socialist party has suffered a bruising defeat to conservatives in the municipal leg of elections and looked headed to suffer big losses in regional government races as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: socialism; spain
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Its not like that at all...

The they are fed up with austerity and as crazy as it sounds he Socialist were the austerity party in Spain...

I agree. Whatever party imposes austerity will get thrown out. The danger is that at some point a despot will offer up the right scapegoat (the EU or the ECB?) and we are going to have a replay of Germany in the 30s. And the potential is there for this to happen in multiple European countries.

In addition, I have a real fear that the US has progressed so far down the same road that when the sovereign defaults, or their equivalent, begin snowballing we could do the same thing.

Look at the Democrat Party's game plan for 40 years. Create dependency and offer scapegoats to blame for the sheeple's lack of wealth. Dems offer no positive solutions to anything, only a list of those to blame, someone else at fault who should be hated.

61 posted on 05/22/2011 6:51:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: PapaBear3625

...meanwhile the United States continues to import radical socialist ideas.....:(:(:(


62 posted on 05/22/2011 7:17:53 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: org.whodat
Spain during Franco was a wonderful place

Even the American hippies in Torremolinos were well-bathed.
63 posted on 05/22/2011 8:15:08 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

LOL, I was in a sleeping bag camped out, woke up and a good looking french woman was taking a bath about 20 feet away, just had a pair of cotton bottoms on.


64 posted on 05/22/2011 8:20:22 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat; Army Air Corps

“Duh, they smacked the socialists because they were not getting enough freebies.”

Probably true... but the conservatives won.


65 posted on 05/22/2011 8:25:39 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Texas Fossil

BTTT for post #2. Thanks Texas Fossil. I agree 100%.


66 posted on 05/22/2011 8:31:42 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: A message
Go figure, Socialism results in economic woes, staggering unemployment and a bleak future.

Given what happened in China under Mao Zedeng's rule, getting away from socialism is the BEST thing to do. Go read up on the debacle that was the Great Leap Forward and that is the best example of top-down economic control being a really bad thing.

67 posted on 05/22/2011 8:47:08 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: PapaBear3625

Sustantivo Espania!

Interesting article from the recent past, that has to have "the Won" worried - now that Spain has joined the TEA party revolution.

"How Spain Can Build its Own 'Tea Party': Copy Sarah Palin"
Hispanidad, Spain
October 21, 2010

68 posted on 05/22/2011 9:40:05 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: daler

One thing missing in this discussion is the role of the Catholic Church and social conservatives.

The Socialist government of Zapatero was virulently anti-Christian.

It tried to force secularism upon a still devoutly Catholic country.

During his time in office, Zapatero instituted “gay marriage”. Allowed homosexuals to adopt children. Allowed abortions upon demand and late term abortions. Ban religious education. Close down churches. Ban masses at public monuments.

All without allowing the public to vote upon it.

Even thous the Church regularly gathers 100,000’s in protest, but the Socialist chose to ignore them.

The Church vigorously campaigned against the Socialist and without the Catholic vote I doubt the Conservatives could have won.

This is a lesson the Republicans should learn as it tries to abandon social conservatives in order to appeal a “wider base”.


69 posted on 05/22/2011 11:11:00 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: John123
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The Spanish Civil war was between the socialists/communists/unions vs. large landowners/socialists/army.

These Spanish soldiers were not fighting for large landowners/socialists/army.

They fought to defend their faith and to defend their country.

They fought against atheistic Communists, Socialist, and Anarchist, who were executed priest, brothers and nuns, who slaughtered the faithful and desecrating Churches. Who tried to wipe all vestiges of religion.

They went into battle shouting "Dios y Patria" and "Viva Cristo Rey".

70 posted on 05/22/2011 11:33:06 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: oldbrowser
I wonder when it will occur to the socialists that the "country's economic woes - staggering unemployment and a bleak future for people young and not so young" are the predictable and inescapable end results of socialism.

...being played out in vivid technicolour right now in Greece.

71 posted on 05/23/2011 12:36:28 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: PanzerKardinal
History Repeating Ping...

looks like the 12th Texas Irregulars going into battle against the obambicoms.

History repeating video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE_1tCasi_Q

72 posted on 05/23/2011 1:01:03 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: org.whodat

Franco was a “conservative” in the European political sense, in that he was a dictator with royalist leanings, which is entirely different from a conservative in the U.S. political sense, someone who truly believes in individual freedom and republican government.


73 posted on 05/23/2011 3:30:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PanzerKardinal; All

Great pics. On the topic of the Spanish Civil War, I heartily recommend Orwell’s Homage to Catalonia for some insight into the war, the political alignments of those fighting it, and the times.

Orwell went to Spain to fight as a starry-eyed socialist to “help the people of Spain” and barely escaped with his life, not so much at the hands of his apparent adversaries, the Nationalists (Fascists), but at the hands of his nominal allies in the fight, the Communists. It had to have been quite a wake-up call, though he did remain a socialist upon his return to England. The overview at Wikipedia is pretty good.

It’s a quick read but quite illuminating, both about the war and the Left.


74 posted on 05/23/2011 3:49:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

All true!!!


75 posted on 05/23/2011 3:54:38 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: nkycincinnatikid

Both Hitler and Stalin were big government socialists: absolutely wedded to the power of the state.

They fought to the death. Why would Spain be any different?


76 posted on 05/23/2011 4:58:02 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: org.whodat
Dictator yes, socialist no!!!!

Dictatorships isn't a conservative government.

77 posted on 05/23/2011 4:58:33 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

Excellent photo essay.

I made a point up-thread that big statists (e.g. Stalin v Hitler) are frequently each others worse enemies.

But I have to say that if you do find yourself in the unenviable position of having to choose between two big-state solutions, the one to support is the one with the social conservatives.


78 posted on 05/23/2011 5:03:09 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
If Franco was a big government socialist what on earth were the Stalin backed Communists that he literally fought to the death?

I'm not sure what is your point is but both types of government killed a lot of their citizens. Are you telling me you would prefer to live under a dictator that had a lot of people executed?

79 posted on 05/23/2011 5:03:20 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: John123
Conservative in Europe is different than conservative in the USA, conservative in Spain means in the old traditions of strong one man rule.
80 posted on 05/23/2011 5:05:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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