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Cain stumbles on right of return?
The Right Perspective ^

Posted on 05/22/2011 10:15:38 PM PDT by deek69

US presidential candidate Herman Cain is trying to recover from an embarassing stumble over the question of the Palestinian Right of Return on Sunday.

“Right of Return?,” Cain blankly asked twice in response to being questioned about his position on the vital issue on FOX News Sunday. The second or two of deafening silence that lasted before host Chris Wallace repeated “The Palestinian Right of Return” to the Republican hopeful seemed to last forever.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; clueless; foreignpolicy; gaffe; gop; hermancain; palestine; rightofreturn
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To: flaglady47
Cain’s off my list because he doesn’t have even a smidgen of foreign policy experience or knowledge, in an incredibly dangerous world.

Michele Bachmann
Haley Barbour
John Bolton
Herman Cain
Mitch Daniels
Newt Gingrich
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Jon Huntsman, Jr.
Gary Johnson
Thad McCotter
Roy Moore
Sarah Palin
Ron Paul
Tim Pawlenty
Rick Perry
Buddy Roemer
Willard Romney
Rick Santorum
Donald Trump

I'm guessing you're a Bolton or Huntsman supporter then? No one else on the list has a smidgen of foreign policy experience.

141 posted on 05/23/2011 5:13:25 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: jacknhoo; onyx

Let’s consider the consequences of nominating any candidate for a VP slot who would be 67 with similar health problems to Cain’s.

With luck after 8 years that VP would be 75 when it could be expected that he or she should would be campaigning for Pres as an incumbent with further health complications. Dick Cheney, blessings be upon him,serves as an example of a highly capable man taken out of the race because of his health. IMO he should have been at the top of the ticket, with a younger VP in waiting. C’est la vie.

And this lack of vision and long term goals is a fundamental problem with GOP. And since 1968 the DP slowly established a revolutionary agenda and proceeded to implementing it at the local level realizing that local politics at the basest level was the key to real power. Remember Tip O’Neil’s statement, “All politics is local.” The result of which is our current perilous state.

The Tea Party movement is America’s reaction to totalitarian excesses of the radical left aided and abetted by a complacent, corrupt and self-serving GOP establishment.

And until the old incumbent GOP is totally swept from office, their paltry media presence, and all positions of influence true conservatism is faced with a life or death struggle on two major fronts, the overt DP rabid mob and the Quislings inside the wire.

We no longer have the luxury of time to hope for gradual evolution of the entrenched GOP. In 2012 Americans must strike it’s domestic enemies with all the political force they can muster at every level down to dog-catcher. A failure of will consigns our children and grand children to a impoverished servitude that will turn every city and town to virtual Detroits., a condition to which the only escape would be a horrific and bloody beyond belief civil war.


142 posted on 05/23/2011 5:17:46 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: papertyger; Anj-ela

I would have to say there is some truth to this. My mother, a conservative, christian, former-marine was saying yesterday how she’d be concerned about a woman president during war-time.

But that is not the argument we need to make. It brings us away from the argument. The fact is Sarah Palin is the best current spokesperson for unapologetic conservatism out there. Period. And conservatism is the only answer to our nation’s ills at this point in history. The ONLY answer.

Put in those terms, one argument outweighs the other.


143 posted on 05/23/2011 5:19:29 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: FlyingEagle

I saw this yesterday. I did not see it as a gaffe at all. Cain had a mental blank about it. That’s all it was.

Are you gonna tell me that has never happened to you?


144 posted on 05/23/2011 5:21:32 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: deek69

I heard it rather then watching it. Wallace clearly stumped him.


145 posted on 05/23/2011 5:22:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: Pan_Yan

When the hell did all the savvy, articulate, logical FReepers get replaced with so many “emperor’s new clothes” sycophants?

It’s embarrassing that you should have to challenge such a dim-witted, “talking head inspired” comment.


146 posted on 05/23/2011 5:27:46 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: gleeaikin

Is “frumforum” spoutings of David Frum?

Puhleeze.


147 posted on 05/23/2011 5:29:53 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Covenantor

Nice post. Very good and accurate on both the domestic enemy and quisling fronts. These folks are dug in like ticks, too. It’s going to take a struggle of...dare I say it...revolutionary proportions (relax, lurkers...speaking metaphorically...sort of)


148 posted on 05/23/2011 5:33:14 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: MarDav

While I appreciate what you’re saying, I am getting sick to death of these people that can only provide an anecdote when asked to support their goofy assertions. (Not that your Mom’s opinion doesn’t have merit, even though it doesn’t close the matter who she would choose)

Most of the time they don’t even provide that! They just double down and make an even MORE gratuitous assertion....


149 posted on 05/23/2011 5:34:08 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: newzjunkey
No one had any idea what "Right of Return" meant.

It is a euphemistic propaganda slogan, like the one invented for allowing doctors to chop up live human beings in abortion-killings. That Chris Wallace uses it in a question doesn't change what it is or give the concept any legitimacy.

Cordially,

150 posted on 05/23/2011 5:40:48 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Covenantor
Well, considering 11% of VP’s have gone on to be elected to the presidency that argument bears some weight.

However, that weight is so very small.

Only two VPs have ever been elected president, as a successor to the president they served under, under the current constitutional process. Serving VPs elected to the presidency are very few and very far between.

151 posted on 05/23/2011 5:41:37 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: papertyger

Yes. And my feeling is these arguments need to be countered with something tight and compact that frames the argument, rather than, responds to someone else’s framing. Thus: Sarah is conservatism. Conservatism is the only answer.

The first assertion cannot be denied. The second assertion must be refuted. And what would a democrat/socialist refute it with? More spending? More government (less freedom)? More mediocrity? More dependency on foreign oil? Higher costs? More apologizing for being American?

These are the positions Obama needs to defend. If forced to do so, he loses. He loses because these positions are wrong.


152 posted on 05/23/2011 5:42:20 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: papertyger

People who have already picked a candidate are getting very defensive. It seems like a lot of people think that if more than one conservative is in the race then the vote will be split and the establishment will win. There may be some small logic to this but it leads to us spending more energy tearing down the best candidates instead of exposing the fakes.

Cain was lost on the ‘right of return’. Palin said we were allies with North Korea. Bachmann didn’t know where the Revolutionary War started. Reagan said trees caused more pollution than cars.


153 posted on 05/23/2011 5:42:21 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

Ron Paul certainly doesn’t.

In fact, I question his grasp on reality.


154 posted on 05/23/2011 5:44:18 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: MarDav

I know two men that say if they have to choose between a female or O, they will stay home. Now, they don’t know much if anything about politics. Which is precisely what scares me so much about trying to get a woman through right now.

Remember alllll those ignorant people worshiping O, tears and all after he was elected? You can bet that a great number of them knew little to nothing about politics either. A great number of them couldn’t even tell you the difference between a democrat and a conservative. But they showed up to vote anyway...

That’s what we’re up against no matter who we try to put in there.

That having been said, all I can do is re-state what I said earlier and hope I’ve said something this time that will make it all “click” for people out there.

We can hold up signs all day long that say a female president would be a great thing, spend countless hours explaining why Sarah or Bachman or any other female is so very wonderful - but the fact remains that there are ... things... which stand between a female and success, completely outside of politics altogether, that simply do not exist for a man right now, if to no one else, the politically ignorant voting members of society.

I don’t think we have time to take those chances. Not now. Gosh. Any time but now. O is trying to destroy us. If we don’t get this right, he’s going to succeed!

It is difficult at this point to put any strong hope in any of the men who are running. They all have some pretty serious issues. Ron Paul wants to legalize heroin, Herman Cain isn’t going to last long because people are slowly figuring out that he’s not as bright as they thought he was, Trump never could have gotten himself elected because he’s emotionally high strung and drops F bombs during family dinner, Tim Pawlenty to date is nowhere near aggressive enough.. it’s a mess. I don’t know what the answer is but I hope one shows up soon.

The only person I myself think could pull it off without too much trouble is Tom Coburn, and he won’t run.

I greatly appreciate your confidence in my actions as senator. However, I am serving only where I feel called to serve, and I do not feel called to run for the presidency. At this time, I plan on serving my final six-year term and then retiring from service in Congress. I have promised my constituents I will serve no more than two terms in the Senate, and I will keep that pledge. I look forward to returning to Muskogee and spending time with my family.

I hope my leadership on limited government, cutting government waste, and defending traditional values will not end with me but will inspire and challenge others that are likeminded to run for office and advance these causes.

Thank you again for writing. Best wishes.

Sincerely,

Tom A. Coburn, M.D.

United States Senator

:(


155 posted on 05/23/2011 6:02:00 AM PDT by Anj-ela
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To: Anj-ela

Thanks for the info. I am not committed to any candidate now. Just still looking...right now I am leaning to Pawlenty.


156 posted on 05/23/2011 6:06:17 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: txrangerette; LeoWindhorse; Vendome; Brookhaven; flaglady47

Cain stumbled. No doubt.

It further underscores the need for him to partner with someone like Bolton if he wants to win.

I did like it when Wallace asked what concession he’d be willing to give the Palestinians and he said “Nothing” though.


157 posted on 05/23/2011 6:10:02 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: jacknhoo

Think you might have buttressed my position once you list the GOP vp’s.
Nixon
Agnew
Ford
Rockefeller
GHWB
Quayle
Cheney

And then there’s Bob Dole and who?

There’s little point in even trying to recall the GOP House and Senate GOP leaders without the aid of an encyclopedia.

Don’t know for sure, but I suspect there just might be a pattern.

In any case, it’s the battle before us that requires us to focus our efforts and will to try and stop this runaway train to destruction. And to field candidates with an eye to the future beyond just next year.

Have a good one.


158 posted on 05/23/2011 6:21:48 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: deek69

Plus he’s black too... Did you people notice that? You’ll never vote for a black man because you are racist.

That’s why you hate Obama in all 57 states.

(P.S. there are 57 ISLAMIC states... hmm, sending a message?)


159 posted on 05/23/2011 6:24:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: deek69

One should always do one’s homework


160 posted on 05/23/2011 6:34:42 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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