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To: Blueflag
IT is VERY hard to lose control of a Champ, a Tri-Pacer, or a 152, or a 172, or a Rocket, etc etc.

I understand what you are saying; we own a Cherokee which I would argue is probably easier to fly than any of the other planes you just mentioned. But, actually it has been proved repeatedly by scores of pilots that it is fairly easy to lose control of almost any aircraft. All you have to do is pull the yolk all the way back and apply full rudder.

You can't do that in a stock “spin proof” Ercoupe since they don't have rudder pedals, but you can still fly it into a cloud ... get disoriented and inadvertently point the nose toward terra-firma.

I live on an airpark (a small airport with houses built around it). I personally have known several “pilots” over the years who have managed to permanently escape the limitations of this imperfect physical world. In most cases all it took was just a small amount of overconfidence in their aircraft or their abilities. I have shared similar personality traits so but for the grace of God go I. I like to think that most of them are still experiencing the joys of flight in a place where the laws of gravity and aerodynamics no longer can cause an abrupt end to what should have been another fun day of flying.

I remember when I was first getting into hang gliding; I had explained to my skeptical new bride how safe it really was. I thought it would be a good idea to take her to the Cloud Base Country Club monthly meeting to introduce her to some fellow pilots. Unfortunately it had been a turbulent spring. The Shakeys Pizza Parlor felt like eerily similar to a hospital ward from a Marx Brothers movie. It seemed like every other person was being wheeled in with one limb or another in some sort of traction. She is very courageous... so I still managed to get her 5000 feet over launch under a tandem hang glider.

Fortunately for me since that time my wife has been my constant flying companion. She brings up the Pizza Parlor when I start making risky decisions. I can't help but wonder if she couldn't have helped the crew of the ill fated Airbus. I suspect that the sequence of events leading to the incident started much earlier than when the captain had to leave the cockpit for a potty break.

47 posted on 05/23/2011 8:42:20 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

The Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill you. Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot


51 posted on 05/23/2011 8:57:59 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: fireman15

As you suggest, too many pilots void the ground contact warranty by being fixated on what they are looking at on the ground in a slow turn.

Slow speed stall. Insufficient airspeed and altitude to recover.

You can even do that in a 152 — essentially a powered glider — but it’s hard.

Short wing Tri-Pacer was different ‘cuz it had a steep low power glide slope. Had to pay a little attention to power settings and air speed when you landed that one!


55 posted on 05/23/2011 9:06:51 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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