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To: muawiyah
Airline safety is an interesting case ~ my 4th amendment rights require that I be secure against a government regulated airplane crashing into my house. Nothing more important than that. Everything else flows from that consideration.

Neither the sexual assault of American citizens nor their irradiation using these machines are capable of stopping a determined terrorist from smuggling explosives on board. Neither can assure your security from the terrorists.

So why, then, are Americans being groped and irradiated? If that's not unreasonable search and seizure, I don't know what is.

96 posted on 05/25/2011 12:20:56 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
I can't encourage you too much to STUDY THE ISSUE. Everything I posted makes tremendous sense once you realize that I used to OWN MY PROPERTY from the center of the Earth to the outer reaches of the Universe!

It was mine ~ all of it. If you wanted to fly your plane into MY SPACE you could be sued for damages because you would be unlawfully SEIZING my property.

What the courts did (and Congress certainly followed with various pieces of legislation) was CUT OFF MY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS to a certain degree.

That's right the government TOOK my property, to wit: AIR SPACE, and turned it over to the MILITARY and OTHER PRIVATE PARTIES, a la Kelo a long time ago. But, the fifth amendment says they owed me something, so they invented "safety" and "convenience" and a couple of other things to the list of benefits to me for them taking my stuff.

It all starts with MY PROPERTY and MY RIGHTS.

The guy flying the plane has his own property. He gets to use MY PROPERTY provided he does various things. You get to be his passenger using HIS PLANE to use MY PROPERTY provided you do certain things.

Currently someone wants to flash a light in your a$$ as your price of admission to SOMEONE ELSE'S PLANE that's going to USE MY PROPERTY as a road.

I think it is reasonable for every manner of thing to be done to make sure that plane isn't going to drop on my house as it violates my property rights. Else, I want my property restored and then that plane owner isn't going to be allowed to fly over my property, and when that happens, he isn't going to have a seat available for you to be a passenger unless he can figure out how to traverse the nation without violating someone's airspace.

I brief, it's not your 4th amendment rights at stake, it's mine! It's also my 5th amendment right to demand just compensation for the seizure of my property without a warrant.

102 posted on 05/25/2011 12:37:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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