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U.S. EPA to Discuss Major Fuel Efficiency Announcement at Tesla HQ in Palo Alto
EPA ^ | 05/25/2011 | Government PR Release

Posted on 05/25/2011 12:33:43 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: thackney

To be fair, I’m pretty sure that government (taxpayer) subsidies were an integral PART of the business model.


21 posted on 05/25/2011 12:55:58 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

And now, after a few years of operating at a net loss, it will be a bigger part.


22 posted on 05/25/2011 12:59:06 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Little Ray

Actually, it is pretty funny to have the EPA promoting a coal powered car. I just wish I wasn’t going to pay for that promotion.


23 posted on 05/25/2011 1:00:47 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Little Ray

“So, how many miles per pound of coal does this new-fangled electric car get?”


An honest question/questions would be:

Mileage per charge? ~250
Mileage per $$ of electricity?
or if I use your analogy:

Miles per Kw produced from Hydro-electric (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from clean Nuclear energy (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from Natural Gas (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from Methane Hydrates (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from Solar (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from Wind (USA)
Miles per Kw produced from Geothermal (USA)
....

See there are many good sources of clean energy and sourced in the USA.

Don’t dismiss the Tesla car so quickly. It not only is slick looking but can out accelerate just about any production car on the market gas/ethanol/diesel


24 posted on 05/25/2011 1:01:21 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: thackney
Because it is the American Marxist way.
25 posted on 05/25/2011 1:02:13 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: StonyMan451

Oh come on - 5 minute full-charge is fair!


26 posted on 05/25/2011 1:04:17 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: traditional1; eCSMaster

http://green.yahoo.com/blog/ecogeek/1116/and-the-stimulus-money-goes-to.html


27 posted on 05/25/2011 1:10:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Red Badger
Model S = $49900 after $7500 Government rebate.

The line forms here.

28 posted on 05/25/2011 1:12:12 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: StonyMan451

The EPA says the Tesla Roadster has a range of 244 miles - I think Tesla itself says 245. But under aggressive driving the actual range from a full charge to completely dead can be dramatically lower.

As to how long it can take to charge, it probably depends on the source of the charge. I think the quick answer is overnight.


29 posted on 05/25/2011 1:13:03 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: thackney

Tesla Motors, Inc. (TSLA) At 3:46PM EDT: 29.00 Up 2.28 (8.53%)


30 posted on 05/25/2011 1:13:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Wurlitzer

Yep.
They had one on the REAL “Top Gear”.
It out accelerated its Lotus counterpart for about 20 seconds before it broke. Of course, the Lotus could go around the track more than once.


31 posted on 05/25/2011 1:17:58 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Castigar

It’s gotta go twice as far and charge way, way faster for me to ever consider buying one.


32 posted on 05/25/2011 1:18:02 PM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: Castigar

It’s gotta go twice as far and charge way, way faster for me to ever consider buying one. I don’t want to have one car for local driving and another for road trips.


33 posted on 05/25/2011 1:18:29 PM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: Red Badger
Next Step in Zero Emissions!

Next Step in Zero Emissions!
34 posted on 05/25/2011 1:22:37 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Wurlitzer
Don’t dismiss the Tesla car so quickly. It not only is slick looking but can out accelerate just about any production car on the market gas/ethanol/diesel

It prices between $109,000 to $128,500. Don't compare to a Chevy, how does it compare to a Ferrari?

35 posted on 05/25/2011 1:28:24 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Wurlitzer

The Tesla would have great mileage specs during the winter here in NH. That’s because it wouldn’t get out of our driveway, much less conquer the mile of snow covered dirt road to our major “highway” (two lanes of blacktop may not seem like a major highway to you, but it works ‘round here).

So, since we need to come and go regardless of the weather, I think we’ll continue on with the AWD Explorer and the 4x4 F350. (No government motors for us.)

Cute toy, though, although I’d opt for an RX-7.


36 posted on 05/25/2011 1:34:27 PM PDT by benewton
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To: thackney
Yeah, and a cheap Ferrari, at that.
37 posted on 05/25/2011 1:42:43 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: benewton

So to follow your logic if something does not work in one area it is not a valid product anywhere?

Seems like faulty logic when applied to ANY energy source or product. Someone will always look at the hole in the donut and complain well if it has a hole it must be no good.

I am considering the Tesla as a summer car in Western NY (want to match winters in Buffalo) but I guess since it wont work for you I should not give it a thought.


38 posted on 05/25/2011 1:57:21 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: thackney

Don’t know about the Ferrari but the Chevy volt is a completely different animal and could have been a better animal if not for government interference.

The Volt uses a gas generator to simply charge or provide current to the batteries which extends the very short electric only range. It is unlike the other gas electric cluster F$%# which also use a gas engine but place it in the drive train which adds a ton of weight and more parts to break. In this case the Volt has a better idea.

0-60 in 3.4 seconds might be a reach for the Ferrari but again I do not know its specs.


39 posted on 05/25/2011 2:03:59 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Red Badger

“a goal of driving down the cost of electric vehicles”

Cost isn’t the biggest problem. The range is. Let’s see if that problem can be solved (not likely).


40 posted on 05/25/2011 3:31:27 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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