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Libertarians as a whole, and that is almost all of them who I’ve encountered on FR, are simply relabeled liberals.

They push the liberal agenda of pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-prostitution; pro-porn; no moral restraints whatsoever.

What they want is limited government with no moral restraints whatsoever.

Anyone who is for limited government is not by default libertarian, which the libertarians would like everyone to believe. Those who support limited government with a strong moral system, even with laws such as existed in the days of the Founding Fathers, are conservatives, not libertarians.

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. There should always be laws against murder, established and enforced BY the government. Libertarian mentality and philosophy as it stands today WILL lead to anarchy with a breakdown of society. People will then demand order from someone, anyone, and accept even a tyrannical government that will restore order.

Then we will be worse off than before.

Our system of government will not work without a moral people. Give up the morals as libertarians want, and anarchy WILL result.

"Our system of government will not work without a moral people. Give up the morals as libertarians want, and anarchy WILL result."

Morals smorals..we don't need no stinking boring morals...bring on the "really smart" fascists and the clowns with the big black "Federal" goberment leash..we don't want freedom, we want "change". /s

I agree. Most of the libertarians that I encounter want to abolish a lot of “morality” laws. I don’t think taking the country any further into the gutter is going to improve things. Looks like anarchy to me. If it feels good, do it was a hippy bumper sticker from the 60’s and not a sound moral philosophy.

I won't argue for libertarians as I simply don't like them enough. I will argue for the constitution and it's principles until I am dead .

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. There should always be laws against murder, established and enforced BY the government.

Well stated and I agree completely. I even know some libertarians that agree with that as well.

Our system of government will not work without a moral people. Give up the morals as libertarians want, and anarchy WILL result.

I've seen no evidence that Libertarians want to give up morals...what do you mean?

There are many areas in which we can work with Libertarians. Many of us have a libertarian streak. Just have to make clear the parts that are non-negotiable. Primarily drugs and abortion. And defense, although I think isolationism has been mischaracterized and is something we should be looking at.