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To: BobL; Lockbox; LocoAardvark; Logan's Nana; logocentric; lohrkearmstrong; lokii; Lone Star Reb; ...
I really don’t like this guy (he’s my governor)...so I’ll keep posting essentially the same thing:

It’s a bummer. Perry has been very effective in KILLING the more conservative stuff before it gets to his desk, by using surrogates in the state legislature. In fact, he allowed a liberal to run the State House, even though we have a greater-than two to one majority over there...he could have pressed for a more representative leader...but didn’t seem to be interested.

Give the Republican majority in our State House and Senate, we should have turned this state into a right-wing utopia by now...but a certain governor did not really have that as an objective - rather he more wanted to sign a few token token pieces of legislation and be able to say the big stuff (like Arizona-type immigration laws, taking on the unions, taking on Big Education, for example) never made it to his desk...just conveniently died in the legislature...

Thanks for your comments. I saw Governor Perry on Greta the other night and did like what he said. However, I want to learn more about Governor Perry. I heard Rush seems to favor him, and Rush made the comment that the GOP elite “inside the beltway” Republicans don't like Perry. That just made me want to hear more from Texas Freepers about how they feel about Rick Perry running for President.

Doing a Texas Freeper Ping to see more comments from Texans.

As always, if you wish to be off my Texas Freeper ping list, just let me know through FreepMail. Thanks!

22 posted on 05/27/2011 9:30:50 PM PDT by seekthetruth (We The People stand with Israel, even though Obama stands with our enemies!)
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To: seekthetruth

DewCrist and Straus are also really good at shafting conservatives


33 posted on 05/27/2011 9:52:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: seekthetruth
I have my issues with Perry as most Texans do. His major issue negative issue with me as a Texan was his stance on the trans corridor was one I very much opposed. BUT after the people damn near lynched him he relented. Would I pull the lever for him again as a presidential candidate, yes I would. He is better then most of those who have thrown the hats is the ring (at least the electable ones), and he definitely stands a better chance of beating Obama.

With that being said, I wonder if I will be zotted for this statement. Have the FR big wigs deemed Perry taboo yet?

46 posted on 05/27/2011 10:16:35 PM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: seekthetruth
I have my issues with Perry as most Texans do. His major issue negative issue with me as a Texan was his stance on the trans corridor was one I very much opposed. BUT after the people damn near lynched him he relented. Would I pull the lever for him again as a presidential candidate, yes I would. He is better then most of those who have thrown the hats is the ring (at least the electable ones), and he definitely stands a better chance of beating Obama.

With that being said, I wonder if I will be zotted for this statement. Have the FR big wigs deemed Perry taboo yet?

47 posted on 05/27/2011 10:16:41 PM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: seekthetruth

I’m a Texas Freeper, and I concur with BobL. We’ve damn near got a Republican super-majority in the state House, but Perry’s done nothing to push them to send him the sort of legislation that Texans have demanded.

Another legislative session is about to close, and we still don’t have a bill that would close the door on illegal immigration. Perry could have (and should have) made that one of this session’s top priorities, but he didn’t.

Perry will talk the talk when it benefits him politically, but when it’s time to walk the walk, he’s got his feet kicked up. Disgusting....


51 posted on 05/27/2011 10:29:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: seekthetruth
As a Texas freeper I will say that I am disappointed that he allowed our current speaker of the house to retain his position for this term.
He is pathetic at best, and a liberal at worst.
He really should have led the house to vote for a legitimate conservative.
The end result is that the session is over and a bunch of really good bills died in the calendars committee.
Campus carry and immigration reform to name a couple.
He got to eat his cake and eat it too.
I called his office and told them he could only redeem himself by calling a special session of the legislature to address both of these items.
I'm not holding my breath.
Since he has avoided such hot button issues I can only assume it is with the mindset that he will run for president.
Now if he could actually win and appoint Palin or Bachmann to the Supreme Court I could live with him.
52 posted on 05/27/2011 10:29:58 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: seekthetruth

I have to say that Rick Perry is NOT a Conservative. I’ll be the first to admit that Texas has prospered under Perry, relative to the rest of the USA, but I can’t say whether that was because of him, or in spite of him. He’s way down on my list of preferred Republican candidates, although if he ever becomes the nominated Pubbie, I will then support him.


57 posted on 05/27/2011 10:40:07 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bama just got bitch-slapped again by Netanyahu AND Congress!)
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks for the ping! On balance Rick Perry is a good man and a competent governor. More conservative than not, he would be a good choice for president OR vice president. He can be fiery when he wants to be and is a cut or two above “W” in speechifying. All in all, we could do worse, a LOT worse.


59 posted on 05/27/2011 10:42:21 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: seekthetruth

Perry talks a good game and will support conservative principles when it’s the populist thing to do.

Back when Al Gore was running for president in 1988, Perry was a Democrat and Gore’s state campaign chairman. Gore was pretending to be a southern “conservative” Democrat.

Perry is along the same lines. He’s somewhere to the right of the Bush family (which doesn’t like him) but he’s not a conservative.

He is relatively tuned in to political winds though. If being conservative will get him elected, that’s what he will be. If he had been Governor of Massachusetts, his credentials would likely resemble RINO Romney. That wouldn’t fly in Texas so Perry has tilted right.

Would he be better than Obama as prez? Of course.

Is Perry politically astute enough to win the GOP nomination? Sure.

If he won, would he be more conservative than either Bush in the White House? Absolutely.

Would he be the best voice for conservatism in 2012? No.

Of those with a realistic chance of getting the GOP nomination, I’d rank Perry just behind Palin among the current field.

FWIW, a Palin/Perry ticket or a Perry/Rubio ticket would crush the Dems next year. Can’t say the same about any of the other potential combinations out there.

Yes, there are flaws (particularly immigration issues and the Trans-Texas corridor fiasco). But none of the candidates walk on water and the perfect should not become the enemy of the good.


60 posted on 05/27/2011 10:42:41 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Barack was Mohammed's horse. Obama is a horse's back side.)
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To: seekthetruth
He's basically a Bush clone. Not the ideal model for less government, but he's been able to ride Tea Party sentiment into making Texas seem very independent.

I also pledged to always give Gov. Perry, for all of his faults, props for cracking down on the Chicken D's who ran to Oklahoma in 2003 over the redistricting battle. That is the day he won his stripes from me.

I don't think he'd make a particularly good President though.

69 posted on 05/27/2011 11:17:31 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: seekthetruth
Before I give you my opinion the best thing for you to do is step back and ask yourself a couple of questions.
First - "Who is the MSM pushing as potential candidates?"
Typical answer - progressive Republicans.
Second - "Who is the political establishment pushing as potential candidates?"
Typical answer - progressive Republicans.
Third - "Who do those groups not want as potential candidates?
There's only a couple of people who fit that bill.

That just made me want to hear more from Texas Freepers about how they feel about Rick Perry running for President.
I want him voted out of office as Governor. Why would I want to vote him in as POTUS?
In my book he is nothing more than a party swapping, go the way the wind blows progressive Republican. If you look up "political expediency" you get a picture of him as a result.
The only way he has kept his office this long is because people worse than him run against him.

Here, here, and here for a quickly put together series of replies.
No, Mr. Goodhair is not for me. In the end, look into the man yourself (don't look at his campaign sites as those will naturally be glowing endorsements) and make your own decision.
His position on the Trans-Texas Corridor, signing the bill for in State tuition for illegal aliens, his wishy-washy border attitude and the HPV vaccination mandated for girls are some of the worst things he's done.
And the most glaring hit on him was this just today...
...he doesn't appear able to grasp the most elemental concepts of America's form of government

75 posted on 05/27/2011 11:40:00 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: seekthetruth

Most of the opposition to Perry comes from one issue mushheads or folks who don’t understand how our state government works. He has been a Great Governor and that’s why he keeps getting re-elected by the good folks of this great state. BTW..he is a Veteran (C-130 pilot)so he wouldn’t have to be taught to salute....


83 posted on 05/28/2011 1:00:31 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: seekthetruth

You have to push Perry to the wall.


87 posted on 05/28/2011 1:44:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: seekthetruth
Most Conservative Texan's have some issue or another with Perry, but overall he's a hellava lot better than some East Coast RINO!

Texas has the best economy of any state and you have to give credit where credit is due.

I'll say it again, in the end it will be Palin & Perry teaming up.

88 posted on 05/28/2011 3:53:53 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: seekthetruth
I have to agree with what the poster, who wrote in the ping you sent, had to say. I did not want to have to vote for Perry for governor, but it was either him or a super liberal.....so no choice. I sure don't want him as pres. Perry is a RINO. He becomes very conservative when running for office, once winning he becomes the RINO he really is.

Mark Levin has had fill-in hosts this week, but the one last night had been impressed with Perry until his started getting Texas callers. Not one was a positive for Perry.

99 posted on 05/28/2011 5:57:45 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: seekthetruth

I tend to think if we keep nit-picking we will end up with more of what we already have. After every candidate suggested, we get the inevitable, “well but...”

We are going to “but” ourselves right back into four more years of the one and completely lose our country. There is no candidate that walks on water. I disapproved of some of the things Ronald Reagan did while in office, although I consider him the greatest President in my lifetime and would clone him in a heartbeat if it were possible.


128 posted on 05/28/2011 7:41:53 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: seekthetruth; BobL
Perry LT Gov Dewhurst has been very effective in KILLING the more conservative stuff

The LT gov has more power in the legislature than the gov does. It sucks, but that is the truth.

129 posted on 05/28/2011 7:42:47 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: seekthetruth

My comment when someone suggests that Perry would make a good Prez usually starts with “Noooooooo!”.

I would be very surprised if he actually runs. I think he likes being considered candidadential, but I think there may be a bit too much baggage for him to run.


134 posted on 05/28/2011 8:03:12 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: seekthetruth

Perry is a RINO plain and simple. He’s a good conservative when he’s running for office, but thats about it. Google Perry and Arizona and see what you find.

We call him Governor Good Hair.


137 posted on 05/28/2011 8:09:24 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: seekthetruth

Perry used to be a ‘Rat years ago. He still has ‘Rat inclinations. He’s tried to sell out Texas farmers to Spanish business interests for a toll road from Mexico.

But on the whole, he’s more of a conservative and libetarian than most of them currently in the race, the sane ones, anyway. AND, he is able to use the word “Secession” in a sentence describing what States can do if oppressed by the federal government.

He does have charisma, too. If it came down to a choice between him and Cain, I would have to really think about it. With most of the rest of them, it would be Perry, no hesitation. Rick Santorum would be the only other real hesitation for me. He’s the man who should be president, IMO, I just don’t know if he has the charisma to get it done.


141 posted on 05/28/2011 8:29:40 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: seekthetruth

Please see Post #150.

Most of those yammering for Perry are outside of Texas. He looks better from afar.

I’d vote for Yosemite Sam to get Obama out of office, but Perry would be a hold-your-nose choice.


151 posted on 05/28/2011 9:04:51 AM PDT by Jedidah
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