Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: piytar

It is really worse than you describe.

I did not look at the video, but I get the picture.

Guy works 12 hours in the mine. Easy job?

Not hardly.

According to reports I saw, he had slept only about two hours when the SWAT team arrived.

Think about it. Very hard job, long hours and asleep for two hours.

That is the period when most people are really sound asleep, very hard to wake up, etc.

I have slept through thunderstorms, my cell ringing with 24” of my head, dogs barking, etc., under similar circumstances.

Complicated by the fact that English is not his wife’s first language and was terrified so the amount of communication possible is 5 seconds or so was very likely not helpful to him.

I don’t know what mine is saying half the time when I am wide awake and English is very much her first and only language.

So the cops’ terrible judgment, might I call it stupidity, and his disadvantaged position doomed him from the start.

But the burden is on the cops because they should never have been there under the circumstances. Meeting him as he got off work would have resolved the whole matter with no risk to anyone. No one comes out of the mine with a AK-15 or uzi.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 10:19:35 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies ]


To: old curmudgeon

It’s starting to look like the AR15 was a throw down. Makes sense to me. After all, how many combat vets arm up and then provide an easy sight picture? They don’t. He##, I wouldn’t, and I’m a civi. I’d be prone or behind cover.

But he was tired? Sure. But a combat tested Marine shrugs off tired in a heart beat if the SHTF. Otherwise, he’d have been a combat killed Marine.

What I think happened? Idiot thugcop stumbled on the door jamb and pops off a round, the other thugcops panic and executed a man tiredly stumbling into the hallway wondering what was going on, the thugcops made sure he bled out, they assaulted and tried to intimidate his wife into shutting up, and now people are learning some facts. (The AR throw down and the assault on and intimidation of the wife are discussed in a link somewhere up thread.)

The question is, will there be justice? I doubt it in our police state nation. At least not through official channels...


47 posted on 05/27/2011 11:08:13 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]

To: old curmudgeon
But the burden is on the cops because they should never have been there under the circumstances. Meeting him as he got off work would have resolved the whole matter with no risk to anyone. No one comes out of the mine with a AK-15 or uzi.

Bears repeating. They wanted to go to his house and get in some fish-in-a-barrel practice. They wanted to kill him. They went where they could look justified in killing him -- and where, if they needed to, they could cover their crime with planted evidence. I'd have absolutely no difficulty concluding premeditated murder, if I were on a jury. The victim never got one, and neither will his killers.

When will people wise up? This is already a police state.

68 posted on 05/28/2011 4:55:31 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (I stand with Israel!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson