Posted on 05/28/2011 5:42:43 AM PDT by Scanian
Jack Cashill recently detailed what Susan Daniels, a private investigator, has learned about Mr. Obama's Social Security Number. In a nutshell, the president's SSN was issued in 1977 with a Connecticut Area Number (first 3 digits).
Here's what the SS official web site says, in relevant part:
The Area Number [first 3 digits] is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.
One must wonder if the above was written or revised in the last three years in the wake of inquiries about Mr. Obama's SSN to draw a red herring across the trail.
But what if the Obamaites are setting us up for another sucker punch?
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Come-on! Anybody who thought that the "long form" released on April 27 was anything but a comical fraud is the sucker.
You could get better work done at Kinko's.
It seems that EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SCUMBAG is fishy.
Ubama is pleading the fifth.
Ubama will not release any records that may incriminate him
That's on possibility, I suppose. The Bamies concocted this amazing plan years ago to obscure his entire past; releasing only an elementary school registration page from Indonesia which says he's a Muslim and his name is Barry Soetoro. Then every year or two they release some really genuine document doctored up to make it look like it's been created out of whole cloth.
Then there's the other possibility, that the guy really is a complete fraud. Hmmm. Let's see. Which one do I think more likely?
ML/NJ
This is soooooo stupid.
My son, born in 2004, has a SS number that starts with 176......our Zip Code is 177.
My other son, born in 2009, has a SS number that starts with 207......our Zip Code did not change.
Our Zip Code is the same as the hospital where both were born.
The Zip Code route is a dead-end.
HF
This is absolutely true because it ignores HISTORY.
In the olden days before everything was heavily computerized, Social Security numbers and paperwork were mostly on physical paper and you had to walk files to and from file cabinets.
One of the reasons Social Security numbers were assigned by geographic location was to minimize having to walk all over to find MILLIONS of records.
think of 50 years ago when SS number administration was mostly physical paperwork and you had to walk from room to room to store MILLIONS of records.
They assigned blocks of numbers to states to mininize walking from file to file cabinet
Move on to Selective Services, which smells like dead fish, too, but I'm sure will get a forgery and/or lame explanation.
A Billion Dollar Campaign War Chest can hire higher-grade forgers and concoct a better story line, for sure.
That leaves school records - poof! Gone, nothing to argue about - same for Illinois Senate records (including travel and planner records) - poof! Gone. His only record is the chair he used which wound up in a museum, and whatever documents Larry may have kept.
Slicker than Clinton, and more cunning than Nixon's plumbers.
Investigative reporters? ----crickets----
Since when did Obama Sr. live and go to school in Connecticut? Harvard is in MA. Yale is in CT. He went to and was dismissed from Harvard.
“maybe the whole matter is just a bureaucratic snafu”
This is what concerns me: yes, we’ve established beyond a shadow of any reasonable doubt that Obama himself could not have been in CT at the time this SSN was issued. But how do we rule out the possibility that an SS file clerk didn’t just inadvertently enter the wrong state code based perhaps on misreading the Zip code on the letter of application? Once the wrong number was used, would there have been any mechanism in the system to correct this? If not, then why are we so certain an error could not have been made in Obama’s case?
I don’t know how we PROVE this is criminal fraud as opposed to a clerical error and unless we can, I’m not sure the average American (who generally will accord someone the benefit of the doubt rather than assume the worst about an individual) is ever going to accept the claim that Obama deliberately manufactured a fraudulent SSN.
Because this never happens. Years ago I used to do skip tracing based on social security numbers. We had an official publication from the DHS that listed every possible prefix and then also the years in which the numbers were issued. Using this guide, it was often possible to determine an individual’s approximate age, assuming that they go the number when they were around 17 and started working.
Now this is all automated. When you run a credit report it tells you the state of issue and the year it was issued. Searching thousands of ss numbers for many years, I never came across a mis-issued number. The only numbers that were strange were those starting with 999. These were issued to legal immigrants.
To my mind the fraudulent ss number indicates that the bc is a fraud. Unless you are hiding from the law or committing fraud or identity theft, you always use your real ss number. But if you weren’t born in this country and you weren’t naturalized, you have to steal a number. BHO’s grandmother worked in the HI probate court. The rightful owner of the number died in HI intestate with no heirs. Therefore, do the math. Easy to pickup a number for your grandson who is of dubious lineage.
Netanyahu would be a good model to follow. Know what you know. Stand by what you know. Respectfully acknowledge those who do not know and choose to tell what they do not know. Tell others what you know in a way you communicate your passion and moral clarity. How you do anything is how you do everything. People will listen to you, discern for themselves and they will know. It is already happening and picking up speed.
“The rightful owner of the number died in HI intestate with no heirs. Therefore, do the math. Easy to pickup a number for your grandson who is of dubious lineage.”
I understand how Madelyn can “see” someone has died intestate. But that person was 87? years old at death. Unless the individual was very unusual, he would have been collecting SS and Medicare (i.e., anyone with the means to live in retirement without drawing on either benefit likely would not have died intestate).
So how could Madelyn have had any confidence that the intestate individual she identified didn’t have his death reported by a licensed medical provider given that failure to do so was illegal and death certificates at the time included the SSN? Admittedly, SSN doesn’t get death certificates on EVERYONE, but it does on the lion’s share of SS decedents. Thus, snagging even an intestate person’s SSN would seem fraught with a rather sizable risk of getting caught. What am I missing?
In contrast, the “Bill Ayers” method was to find dead babies and then apply for SSN in their names—an inherently far less risky road to securing a false identity.
“”The Zip Code route is a dead-end.””
I don’t believe the article said that social security numbers USE the zip code, just that they are issued FOR the zip code used as a mailing address.
Before zip codes were in effect, numbers were issued FOR the area you lived or had an address. Mine was issued beginning with 0 and was always able to be identified as coming from the north east.
SS numbers beginning with the numbers 159-211 are issued to those with a mailing address in Pennsylvania.
You say your zipcode begins with 177. That is the zipcode prefix for Pennsylvania. So it is not a dead end. It shows it is accurate.
Forgot to mention the SS numbers are 176 and 207 which fall in that range of numbers issued to Pennsylvania
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