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FBI OVERBOARD ON SUSPICIOUS CUSTOMER WARNING?
NRA-ILA ^ | 05.27.2011

Posted on 05/29/2011 3:08:16 PM PDT by Hugin

Since the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is responsible for enforcing federal gun laws, dealers and other federal firearm licensees typically contact that agency (or state or local police) when they encounter suspicious customers. So, it raised eyebrows when the FBI began circulating flyers in gun shops and ranges, encouraging owners of those businesses to report suspicious customers to “your local Joint Terrorism Task Force” instead. The flyers first appeared in Connecticut, with a revised version appearing more recently in Utah.

The two versions of the flyers we have seen, both titled “Communities Against Terrorism: Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Gun Shops and Gun Ranges,” list a number of things that would cause anyone to be suspicious. These include use of fake IDs, altered appearances, making radical or anti-American comments, practicing kidnapping scenarios at a range, referring to "jihad training manuals," and attempting to circumvent gun laws.

On the other hand, the flyers also list a number of things that are not inherently suspicious at all, such as paying in cash rather than with a credit card, traveling a significant distance to visit a range, possessing little knowledge about a product purchased, being interested in the use of concealed weapons, and buying bulk quantities of "weatherproofed ammunition."

As we live in an era of profound sensitivity for people’s feelings, the flyers discourage dealers and ranges from jumping to conclusions when someone doesn’t fit the mold of their average customers. Perhaps due to a past FBI Statement, that “just because someone’s speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different, it does not mean that he or she is suspicious.”

But, the flyers also encourage dealers and ranges to report the names of customers who engage in any single activity that the flyers list. “Some of the activities, taken individually, could be innocent,” the flyers say, but they “must be examined by law enforcement professionals in a larger context to determine whether there is a basis to investigate.”

On that point, we hope good judgment will prevail.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; fbi; guns; terrorism
“Some of the activities(,paying in cash rather than with a credit card, traveling a significant distance to visit a range, possessing little knowledge about a product purchased, being interested in the use of concealed weapons, and buying bulk quantities of "weatherproofed ammunition) taken individually, could be innocent,” the flyers say, but they “must be examined by law enforcement professionals in a larger context to determine whether there is a basis to investigate.”

Yep, gotta investigate those suspicious people who use cash, travel to a range, or want "weatherproof ammo" (is there another kind?). Clearly they could be dangerous.

1 posted on 05/29/2011 3:08:23 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
>"the flyers also encourage dealers and ranges to report the names of customers who engage in any single activity that the flyers list."

Here's a freebie for the FeeBees, anyone named muhhamhead!

2 posted on 05/29/2011 3:16:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Hugin
>"the flyers also encourage dealers and ranges to report the names of customers who engage in any single activity that the flyers list."

Here's a freebie for the FeeBees, anyone named muhhamhead!

3 posted on 05/29/2011 3:16:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Hugin

The State Dept. should be the ones investigated...they import the enemy EVERY SINGLE DAY.


4 posted on 05/29/2011 3:17:37 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


5 posted on 05/29/2011 3:22:22 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: magna carta

This is where Obama wanted GUNRUNNER to go. Dump weapons into Mexico and then have the FEDS go after Americans.

Obama is a traitor, he is behind this anti-Gun, anti-American push.

Congress needs to begin impeachment hearings.


6 posted on 05/29/2011 3:23:58 PM PDT by politicianslie (Democrats are COMMUNISTS, Repubs are SOCIALISTS, and Barry is a radical Muslim)
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To: politicianslie

I agree but I believe we are surrounded by traitors.


7 posted on 05/29/2011 3:27:16 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: rawcatslyentist; All

You forgot Abdul, Achmed ,Ishmael , Mustafa ,Yasser to name just a few that the federal bureu of incinerators should be looking for.


8 posted on 05/29/2011 4:25:26 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Hugin

So maybe this is not the best time to use Obamao pictures for targets?


9 posted on 05/29/2011 4:30:14 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

But those are the people the Feds absolutely love! They aren’t going to do anything about them just like the ones that fly on air transportation system. It’s better to sexually assault via groping a five year old than offend a member of the religion of peace!

Don’t you know that the law-abiding citizens are the terrorists according to Nappy?


10 posted on 05/29/2011 4:52:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Which is more suspicious...

a) A woman who goes to a gun store and clearly knows little about firearms, asks a lot of questions about different kinds of handguns, ammo, and concealed carry, before buying one and a good supply of ammo paying cash. Name, Susan Johnson.

b0 Three young men with foreign accents show up at a reange, each carrying an HK MP5 and a Glock 10, buy a few boxes of ammo with a credit card, and are clearly knowegable and profient with their arms. Names, Muhammed Hussien, Barak al Deeb, and Achmed Ali.

In FBI world, clearly former is suspicious and should be investigated by the FBI. Any investigation of the latter would be racial profiling, which of course is a grievous violation of their civil rights.

11 posted on 05/29/2011 5:18:30 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Hugin

At some point, we hpe, the government will come to the realization that average Americans are NOT the problem, and stop getting their knickers in a twist over airline passengers and gun purchasers from home, and begin to focus on Moslems.

Yes, it’s politically “incorrect”; it’s also eminently practical, and will save both time and money. Not to mention hassle.


12 posted on 05/29/2011 8:26:46 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: basil

Unfreakinbelievable.......


14 posted on 05/30/2011 5:50:48 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Yehuda
These include use of fake IDs...
altered appearances...
making radical or anti-American comments...
practicing kidnapping scenarios at a range...
referring to "jihad training manuals and attempting to circumvent gun laws....


And, of course, associating with known criminals:


15 posted on 05/31/2011 9:57:59 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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