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To: 1010RD

A peaceful transition...that would be like when the Turks invaded the Pelopennesian Peninsula, right? I think the other name for “ethnic cleansing” is invasion, lebensraum, genocide, etc.

There’s no case whatsoever to be made for “ethnic cleansing.” The only time space sharing among groups becomes impossible is when one of them decides it wants the whole pie. This is something that is built into Islam, unfortunately.

And it is something that other groups do when they have a nutty leader such as Hitler.

Most groups react by keeping more to themselves if they don’t wish to associate with anyone different. Jews, for example, have often lived in self-enclosed communities, such as parts of Brooklyn, not only because of persecution, but because this enables them to live under their particular law and customs.

Sometimes the group that is the victim (remember the Balkans!) will then try to expel the aggressive invader, but that’s more self-defense than “cleansing.”


14 posted on 05/30/2011 4:57:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

That’s the historical manifestation of it. I wish I could find the article. His point was that the defense/offense responses of distinct human groups is normal and to be expected. That’s the default behavior.

Better, the author argues, to allow a Balkanization to occur as peacefully as possible than the slaughters. I think that’s a valid point. As Americans we reject the Balkans model, but that’s historically naive.

We have very little of that in America, despite our liberals working feverishly to excite it. My hope is that black Americans realize that liberalism has trapped them in a vicious cycle and that they are just Americans.

I’m particularly excited by the number of black Republicans running for office with Herman Cain and Allen West in particular. I don’t understand why there isn’t a greater push for vouchers by the GOP targeting urban areas.


18 posted on 05/30/2011 5:17:58 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: livius
Ethnocentrism is inherent in mankind. People like their families best, then their more distant relatives, then other people who look like them and speak the same language and have the same religion. They can easily be convinced to murder and evict people of different race, religion, and language. Look at how Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia have split up, and rather minor differences between closely related people create dissension in places like Belgium. The idea that you can create a stable nation out of people with radically different races, cultures, and languages without force is a liberal Enlightenment myth. The Roman Empire lasted a few centuries, but the did this by imposing their law with an iron will and "cruel & unusual punishments," as well as settling their colonies with Romans and so thoroughly introducing their language that derivatives of it are spoken all over Europe to this day.
21 posted on 05/30/2011 5:29:25 AM PDT by hellbender
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