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To: 1010RD
If Turkey enters the EU in the face of Europe’s sudden awareness of the Muslim & Socialist threat (they’ve moved right and sharply in recent elections), there really is a global conspiracy controlling world events.

I think that's a good point, and I don't think we're paying enough attention to the situation in Turkey. There was some examination of it a few years ago, as Islamism started to gain there, but I think it's now in its Trojan horse phase and looking normal while everything is really just going ahead quietly and in stealth.

I also think that the glories of the Arab Spring (such as Al Qaeda taking over Yemen) are going to give Turkey, which is viciously aggressive, a chance to present itself as a peaceful, stabilizing force. It never has been and it never will be; it is the most dangerous army of Islam, IMHO, and we seem to have forgotten its arrival at the gates of Vienna.

15 posted on 05/30/2011 5:03:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Friends of mine indicate that this isn’t forgotten or lost knowledge even at Foggy Bottom, it’s being suppressed and purposefully. When American foreign policy ignores or denies reality Americans die. That’s the direction Obama’s pointed us in.


19 posted on 05/30/2011 5:19:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: livius
I also think that the glories of the Arab Spring (such as Al Qaeda taking over Yemen) are going to give Turkey, which is viciously aggressive, a chance to present itself as a peaceful, stabilizing force. It never has been and it never will be; it is the most dangerous army of Islam, IMHO, and we seem to have forgotten its arrival at the gates of Vienna.

Turkey's army is the eighth largest in the world today. Add to this recent events, such as Turkey becoming closer and closer to Iran, and you can get a sense that a New Ottoman Empire is realistically possible. Amenejehad was in Turkey recently, and while there, did something which most people don't grasp the import of. He prayed 'behind' a Sunni imam. This was a non-verbal declaration that he, and the Shiite clerics he fronts for, would be willing to unite under a Sunni banner to advance common interests.

Turkey, united with Iran, makes a decent-sized core for a New Ottoman Empire, a united Islamic Caliphate, which hasn't been seen in over 80 years. Other nations in the area, particularly those targeted in this 'Arab Spring' may well follow Iran in looking to Turkey to be the public face of their aspirations. The major sticking point could be Egypt, which has its own ideas about its destiny. As part of the consolidation of the New Ottoman Empire, watch and see what relationship Turkey will have with whatever comes to the fore in Egypt. The may well be an armed conflict if Egypt chooses not to subordinate itself to the Turko-Iranian plan...

the infowarrior

46 posted on 05/30/2011 7:04:33 PM PDT by infowarrior
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