“Have you been reading my posts e.g. precedents and supreme court ruling. I’m not the evasivie one here. “
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i HAVE been reading your posts. and i DO think you are being evasive. ...more than evasive, i think you are DELIBERATELY misleading and deceptive.
instead of having an HONEST discussion, about these issues.
and i wonder why...
yes, as you say, Arthur admitted his Father was Irish born. and there was plenty of time for him to become a citizen. so everyone ASSUMED he had. just as every ASSUMED Obama’s eligibility was verified. (a case of “it’s not my table...”).
...in the Constitution, the Founders DIDN’T define “Natural born”. so you think it was an accident? instead of that they didn’t feel a need to define what “is is” ?
...i admit you know a LOT i don’t. you’d have to, to be able to dodge, dissemble, and mislead as well as you do, on all these issues. i admit i am very impressed with your knowledge and intelligence.
...instead of addressing this, you come back with an esoteric quotation from Ark, that again ignores the central issue:
To: Captain Kirk
The SCOTUS ruled that Kim Wong Ark was a native-born citizen, not natural born.
23 posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 1:10:08 PM by fastkelly
...is there ANYTHING that would get you to have some honest intellectual curiosity, about the obvious coverup and scrubbing, the fact that ALL his records are hidden, from the “most transparent President ever” ???
...i’d LOVE for you to explain to me, how a teenager in Hawaii, got a CONNECTICUT SSN...
i’ve seen MANY honest discussions on FR. and they don’t twist words, and use deceptive tactics, they let the facts live or die on their own.
yet on this topic, i see people with honest questions, ridiculed, and given deceptive answers. WHY ?
...like the liberal Chicago Law firm, linked to Obama, that wrote how unfair the “natural born” clause is, and it should be changed.
link inside here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2728177/posts?page=14#14
until Obama was elected, i don’t see ANY disagreement, even by LIBERALS, of the definition of “natural born”.
if you can find something written from YOUR position, saying Vattel is wrong, prior to Obama, i’d LOVE to read it.