A Million Electric Vehicles - The president wants them by 2015, but 2064 is...more realistic.

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | June 7, 2011 | Robert Bryce

[hannibaal]

HAHAHAHA

Where did I mention that coal is not a fossil fuel?

1) We have the worlds largest reserve of coal
2) clean coal is actually way cleaner than burning oil
3) I already said that we generate most of our power from coal
4) I also mentioned that we are not at the level to rely on renewables.. clearly but you of course had to act like i said nothing.
5) My answer was a response to a poster who said well electricity comes from oil so we arent saving anything.. I retorted saying most of it is actually coal, and the whole point of maybe going electricity is to lower our dependence on OIL. Because if we dont need it for cars then we dont need it for anything since we produce our electricity from other methods namely coal and nuclear. The whole point is foreign dependence.

I dont even know what the hell you are attacking me on.. You just assumed a bunch of things I didnt even say and somehow came with the notion that I’m not bright. Actually I even said what you are saying in your post that renewables are unrealizable at the moment. And why would we even do away with clean coal plants?

My whole point was reducing dependence on oil.. not fossil fuels which would be completely retarded. Im talking from an economic point of view and not an environmental one which you seem to think I am.

Learn to read better before criticising people about their intelligence.

[hannibaal]

Actually rereading my post and then yours im completely dumbfounded at your response. Im guessing youre quite the old timer, cranky and a dwindling intellect.

[familyop]

...and a large battery array. And BTW, that would require a summer sunny day (12 hours) and drain the sized battery array by 50%, which I wouldn’t recommend. Better double the PV module and battery array, if the batteries are to last very long.

[muleskinner]

the Volt is the G.M. version of the Toyota Prius. It's a hybrid that doesn't plug in to anything. I don't know where you live, but I can see several Prius in the comp[any lot. They are all over the place in Calif.

Now, the car that makes no sense is the Nissan Leaf, unless you live in a city, have a short commute(< 20 miles R.T), and have over night to recharge. Not to mention it looks like the worst of French Car design.

I, OTOH, intend to get a version of the best selling car in Europe.

[Ditter]

Did you happen to receive the email with graphic photos of the guy who was cut in half after he had a head on with an 18 wheeler? He was texting while driving and crossed the center stripe. He was driving some kind of tiny car, it was impossible for me to tell if it was a Volt, Smart Car, Tata. I have led a pretty sheltered life and never seen a human body ripped into 2 pieces but if you are curious freepmail me your email address and I send it to you. I am not ready to drive anything that small so you are welcome to my coffin on 4 wheels.

[muleskinner]

the Volt is the G.M. version of the Toyota Prius. It's a hybrid that doesn't plug in to anything. I don't know where you live, but I can see several Prius in the comp[any lot. They are all over the place in Calif.

Now, the car that makes no sense is the Nissan Leaf, unless you live in a city, have a short commute(< 20 miles R.T), and have over night to recharge. Not to mention it looks like the worst of French Car design.

I, OTOH, intend to get a version of the best selling car in Europe.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Considering he won’t be President in 2015, can a real President just junk the whole idea?

[familyop]

Oops...about six hours. But that’s about what some of the sunnier places in the USA (like here) get on many days. 12 modules would do it on sunny days. 2880 amp-hours of batteries would be recommended (720 x 4 - efficiency losses). More modules would be recommended for winter (assuming middle latitudes of the USA). Offhand guestimates.

[ridesthemiles]

Since NObama is demanding that Federal purchases are of the Chevy Volt, his predictions might come true-—but at the expense of the American taxpayer.

[muleskinner]

the Volt is the G.M. version of the Toyota Prius. It's a hybrid that doesn't plug in to anything. I don't know where you live, but I can see several Prius in the company lot. They are all over the place in Calif.

Now, the car that makes no sense is the Nissan Leaf, unless you live in a city, have a short commute(< 20 miles R.T), and have over night to recharge. Not to mention it looks like the worst of French Car design.

I, OTOH, I intend to get a version of the best selling car in Europe. It's got 170.H.P. and is lighter than a Mini.

Yes, it's a FIAT. Fiat 500 Abarth. 42 M.P.G. with the 5 speed and a light foot.

You can get the 190 H.P. version if you don't mind a roll cage and other purpose built ergonomics. .

So much for Global Warming.

[familyop]

"the Volt is the G.M. version of the Toyota Prius. It's a hybrid that doesn't plug in to anything."

Charging the Chevy Volt
gm-volt.com
http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/20/charging-the-chevy-volt/
"There will be a portable 120 V unit (R) that can be plugged into any standard receptacle...The other device option (L) is a 240 V stationary wall-mounted unit that has to be installed in the owners garage per code."

[truthguy]

What’s that got to do with the Volt? Yes it’s small but not really smaller than a Prius, Corolla, or any other compact or sub-compact. The Volt has a 5-Star Safety Rating. If you don’t like small for the sake of being small, then buy a full sized pickup truck. It’s one of the safest vehicles on the road.

[familyop]

Akerson Wants $5 Gas; CEO Unfit to Lead Bailed-Out GM [Wants 50-cent or $1 extra gas tax.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2731807/posts

The Marching Morons

[Silentgypsy]

Who would willingly pay for these vehicles?

[Drill Thrawl]

Even if it was 2008 does he really think he could roll out a million plugins to all 57 states.

[Ditter]

I was speaking against very small cars in general not especially against the Volt. Just another reason not to get one. These cars might make some sense in some places, but not where we drive. I drive a Tahoe and Mr. Ditter drives a p/u. We have no plans to change.

[bfree]

the Volt is the G.M. version of the Toyota Prius. It's a hybrid that doesn't plug in to anything. I don't know where you live, but I can see several Prius in the comp[any lot. They are all over the place in Calif. Now, the car that makes no sense is the Nissan Leaf, unless you live in a city, have a short commute(< 20 miles R.T), and have over night to recharge. Not to mention it looks like the worst of French Car design. I, OTOH, intend to get a version of the best selling car in Europe.

Sorry, you are dead wrong. the Volt has to be recharged using ELECTRICITY. Which comes from what? nuclear power or coal burning, usually.

[bfree]

What a joke. When GE and obami’s government mandated buys of the Volt are taken out of the equation, they don’t sell and won’t sell. Your propaganda link to ask Volt owners is another joke. There are so few owners and they probably got some more financial incentive to rave about the lemon they bought and we subsidized.

You are at least consist as a shill for this piece of garbage known as the Volt. After reading the comments yesterday of the chairman of GM, I am convinced GM will be bankrupt again within 5 years.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

Well actually, the point I believe is to make us less dependent on foreign oil.

uh, then open OUR OWN OIL FIELDS ... don't come up with screwy cars that burn coal!

[bfree]

So the problem with low sales is really a production problem. There are NO Volts setting around Chevy Dealership lots waiting to be sold. If you do not believe this, then go over to your local Chevy Dealership and see if you see any on the lot. Go ahead bfree. I'm calling you out right here and now. Take the challenge!

Because of obami's economy and sky high gas prices, I did the logical thing instead of going to dealers- I called them, 3 of the largest in the area. All 3 said they had no Volts and DIDN'T want them either. One dealer said they would special order one if I wanted, but with a substantial down payment.