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To: DJ Elliott

http://www.forum.militaryltd.com/uk-forces-general-discussion/m16557-multi-national-mentoring-helps-iraqi-army

http://www.ausa.org/publications/armymagazine/archive/2006/9/Documents/Steele_Iraqi_0906.pdf

http://newsblaze.com/story/20060516071949nnnn.nb/topstory.html

http://www.dvidshub.net/news/63033/10th-iraqi-army-division-exercises-command-coordination

http://waronterrornews.typepad.com/home/2011/04/iraqi-army-preps-for-divisional-live-fire-exercise.html


21 posted on 06/16/2011 8:41:37 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The first link is from when the UK was still in Basrah - Before the formation of the 14th IA Div. 2 of its brigades were disbanded and replacement Brigades built in 2008-2009. Those were the 40th [former 4-10] and the 52nd [former 3-10]. You obviously didn’t hear but, the US had to retrain the 10th IA Div after the UK left. The UK had been cooking the books in the south.

The second link was from 2006, when the policy changed from training for external to getting a credible internal security force. That data is completely obsolete. They only restarted external training in Nov 2010. COIN is not even close to the level of intensity and coordination needed for external defense.

The third link from 2006 is also obsolete. All of the SIBs [19 bns] have since then been purged [2008], sent back to bootcamp [2009-2010], and started over mostly as the 12th Div [commisioned with 2 reformed brigades and a HQ in 2009]. The elements of the 4th Div listed there were broke up to provide cadre during this reformation. Effectively, that force is receiving retraining.

The fourth link is one of the COIN training evolutions. Notice only half of the 10th Div was involved. There are 4 brigades in an IA Div. That is because the rest of 10th Div’s battalions are in external training at Ali Base. COIN CPXs are not even close to coordinating a division in combined arms against an external enemy. There is good reasons why COIN is also called Low Intensity Conflict.

The fifth link is a battalion level exercise of the 12th Division’s Commando Battalion supported by a mortar battery. Supports my point.

If those are supposed to support your point, then where is the Corps and Division level exercises in external defense. COIN is not even a close comparison.

The IA does not have the communications to coordinate at Division, they are still forming Divisional Communications Battalions.

The IA only formed its first divisional field artillery battalion - each division rates a FA Brigade. You can’t train on what you don’t have.

The IA is still building divisional engineers up.

The IA Brigades do not have Brigade Support Battalions except in 9th Div. You can get away with that for COIN - not for external.

The first Chem Defense Company in the IA only formed 8 months ago. Each Brigade requires a Chem Co and each Div a Chem Bn.

Then there is the fact that the IA does not have any Corps or corps-level troops/support. They were scheduled to form in 2008-2011 but, the budget crunch postponed that.


22 posted on 06/16/2011 9:39:18 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A bit more current, as in this year:

http://www.defense.gov/Blog_files/Blog_assets/BRT%20MajGenBUCHANAN.pdf

“Sustainment and logistics is a — is another example. The MOD, in particular, has funded about 10 percent of what we think is required, for the last two years, for maintenance.”

“And the last area I want to highlight has to do with combined arms and their ability to integrate combined arms. Because they’ve been focused almost entirely on counterinsurgency operations, they have not yet been able to — and have not had to — integrate the various effects of combined arms from infantry, artillery, attack aviation, armored forces — you know, to have the optimum effect that they’re looking for because they haven’t been facing threats that require that. We’ve maintained the responsibility for external defense of the country. And so we’re working now — and I can go into this a little bit later — but we’re working very hard to help give them some of those basic capabilities that they can build on so that they can better meet their security needs for the future.”

http://home.comcast.net/~djyae/site/?/blog/view/90/

This is the interview link that goes with my article - in case you don’t trust my writing.
http://www.dodlive.mil/index.php/2011/03/u-s-army-bloggers-roundtable-operation-new-day/

You might try reading some of my other articles about the IA from this year as opposed to old puff-pieces from 2006.

http://home.comcast.net/~djyae/site/?/blog/view/89/

http://home.comcast.net/~djyae/site/?/blog/view/84/


23 posted on 06/16/2011 10:01:16 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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