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The Queen Makes Philip Head Of The Royal Navy
Sky News ^ | 10th June 2011 | Paul Harrison

Posted on 06/11/2011 12:51:33 AM PDT by naturalman1975

On his 90th birthday, the Queen has honoured her husband, the Duke of Edinburgh, with the title of the Lord High Admiral of the Navy - a role that, until now, was hers.

The office of the Lord High Admiral dates from the 14th century and has been held by the Queen since 1964.

She has now handed it over to her husband as he celebrates his milestone age and in recognition of the fact that he gave up his promising naval career to devote his life to royal duty and support his wife in her role as Sovereign.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dukeofedinburgh; elizabeth; queenelizabeth; thequeen
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The Duke of Edinburgh has held the rank of Admiral of the Fleet since 1953.

Now, the Queen has appointed him Lord High Admiral - a traditional ceremonial position in the UK, that she has held herself since 1964.

In so doing she's spoiled one of his favourite jokes (I've heard it about half a dozen times) - he liked pointing out to people that the Lord High Admiral was married to an Admiral of the Fleet.

1 posted on 06/11/2011 12:51:36 AM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

He looks great for 90.


2 posted on 06/11/2011 1:06:57 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: naturalman1975

So what the heck does a Lord High Admiral do anyway?

Sounds like another fluffy, meaningless title to me.

Yawn.


3 posted on 06/11/2011 1:19:25 AM PDT by derllak
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To: naturalman1975

Does HMS now mean HIS Majesty’s Ship?


4 posted on 06/11/2011 1:22:33 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: naturalman1975
Hope he doesn't fall overboard with all those medals, he'll sink like a stone.
Wouldn't be a particularly good show for the Lord High Admiral.
5 posted on 06/11/2011 1:27:14 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: naturalman1975
Three times Huzzah for the new Lord High Admiral!

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

6 posted on 06/11/2011 1:28:05 AM PDT by 60Gunner (Ma'am, that is not a seizure. That is a dance move.)
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To: derllak
Sounds like another fluffy, meaningless title to me.

In 1936, the Lord High Admiral of the Royal Navy resigned to become third mate on an American tramp.














I'n here every night. Try the veal!

7 posted on 06/11/2011 1:51:25 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: derllak

It’s a ceremonial title. The Brits don’t even have an aircraft carrier at present so the Royal Navy can’t be all that fun to be head of anyway!


8 posted on 06/11/2011 1:51:32 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't screw up the 2012 nomination.)
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To: naturalman1975

Philip holds the Record for being on the dole longer than anyone else in England, 64 years and counting.


9 posted on 06/11/2011 2:00:43 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: newzjunkey

Do they still have a navy? Haven’t they sold all their ships to India?


10 posted on 06/11/2011 2:01:45 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: newzjunkey
It’s a ceremonial title. The Brits don’t even have an aircraft carrier at present so the Royal Navy can’t be all that fun to be head of anyway!

Actually, they still have Illustrious. They just don't have any fixed-wing planes to fly off her. Unless they borrow some USMC Harriers (and the Marines that go with them). Which they do ...

Funny nautical story about the Queen and Prince Philip. During the 1976 US Bicentennial celebrations they came to Boston and toured the USS Constitution. The Constitution, at the time had (and still does, I think) a mish-mosh of restored and operational cannon from different origins. Including the UK.

Apparently the Queen noticed the royal seal of George III (or maybe George IV?) and quipped to her husband "You know, Philip, we really need to talk to the Minister of Defence about these foreign arms sales ..."
11 posted on 06/11/2011 2:02:42 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

:)


12 posted on 06/11/2011 2:26:31 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: trumandogz

Lol!

Welfare on steroids? :)


13 posted on 06/11/2011 2:29:48 AM PDT by derllak
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Though certainly smaller than it used to be, the Royal Navy is still the third largest navy (by tonnage) in the world, after those of the United States and Russia. It’s still over twice the size of any European navy, and 50% larger than those of China or Japan - more than three times the size of India’s.

I know it’s popular to run down the British military capability, but the Royal Navy could still match the combat strength of any Navy except the US Navy - and as it’s unlikely it will need to match the combat strength of the US Navy in the near future, that is probably sufficient for most purposes.


14 posted on 06/11/2011 2:36:59 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: trumandogz

It might be worth actually informing yourself about where the Royal Family’s money comes from, rather than spouting statements like that one (I’ll give you a hint - the Crown provides the British treasury with more than ten times the revenue it gains from the treasury - an effective income tax rate of 80-90%).


15 posted on 06/11/2011 2:38:40 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Mr. Blond
No, it remains Her Majesty's Ship - while the Queen has been Lord High Admiral since 1964, plenty of others have held the position over the years, but the ships remains the Monarch's.

Besides Philip is 'His Royal Highness' not 'His Majesty'.

16 posted on 06/11/2011 2:42:48 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Congratulations to the Duke of Edinburgh. I’m a huge Prince Philip fan. It was interesting to hear the 90th birthday tributes to him in the House of Commons. He has generated so many anecdotes and stories over the years.

I love this exchange between HRH and a rather ‘chippy’ ex-union leader:

Philip : So, what did you do before this job?
Union L: I was a union leader, sir.
Philip: So ‘bugger all’ then?
Union L: (indignantly) well, what did YOU do before YOUR present job?
Philip: Fought in the Second World War.


17 posted on 06/11/2011 2:59:18 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: Tredegar

I once had a great conversation with him about whether or not he could successfully steal an Australian warship (he is also an Admiral of the Fleet in the Royal Australian Navy). I was doubtful until he asked me if I’d obey an order if he gave it to me (I was still a serving Commander at the time) and I had to concede I would be hard pressed to explain why I hadn’t if he gave one.

If it wasn’t for the press (and the Queen), I think he might have tried it :).


18 posted on 06/11/2011 3:08:33 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Magnificent. I love the imagine of a rogue Prince Philip sailing the seas in command of a stolen Australian warship. That could be the answer to the Somali piracy problem though....

A few more Duke of Edinburgh quotes:

“I’d like to visit Russia very much - although the bastards murdered half my family.”

“Oh, it’s you that owns that ghastly car - we often see it when driving to Windsor Castle.” (to Sir Elton John, referring to the singer’s gold aston martin)

“If you see a man opening a car door for a woman, it means one of two things: it’s either a new woman or a new car!”

“You have mosquitos. I have the press.” (to a matron at a caribbean hospital)

“If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?”

There are so many.....

The Duke is currently at ‘Trooping the Colour’ which, as usual, is a splendid sight.


19 posted on 06/11/2011 3:37:59 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: spetznaz
Apparently the Queen noticed the royal seal of George III (or maybe George IV?) and quipped to her husband "You know, Philip, we really need to talk to the Minister of Defense about these foreign arms sales ..."

and when asked about it later said: "we are not amused"

"Off with his head"

20 posted on 06/11/2011 3:52:39 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: naturalman1975

This is what comes from doing a splendid job of polishing the handles of the big front door at Buckingham Palace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLIyWcxPlEU&feature=related


21 posted on 06/11/2011 4:09:30 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: The Hogwarts of stupid.)
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To: Tredegar

Trooping the Colour is always a great spectacle. I never knew the drum horses were the only animals to hold commissions in the army.


22 posted on 06/11/2011 4:16:52 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: derllak

Yup: Same as those medals on his chest are for decoration only.


23 posted on 06/11/2011 4:37:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Yup: Same as those medals on his chest are for decoration only.

I hope that's sarcasm: IIRC, he earned most of them in WW2.

24 posted on 06/11/2011 4:51:30 AM PDT by Grut
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To: naturalman1975
Who CARES about all this "Royal" shiite?

It is as RIDICULOUS as "the knights who say, 'Ni!'".

25 posted on 06/11/2011 4:54:29 AM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: DocH

Quite a few people care about it, including for some reason I can’t always fathom quite a few Americans.

But to me, more important here is the acknowledgement of a man who has served his country - and not just his country - for, literally seven decades at this point, in a wide variety of different roles. I think that is worthy of respect and honour.


26 posted on 06/11/2011 5:00:52 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
I know it’s popular to run down the British military capability, but the Royal Navy could still match the combat strength of any Navy except the US Navy - and as it’s unlikely it will need to match the combat strength of the US Navy in the near future, that is probably sufficient for most purposes.

It's not the number of ships, but what the nation can actually do with them.

The RN can wage an effective nuclear deterrence (Vanguard-class SSBNs). They can engage in effective anti-submarine actions. They can do maritime protection/escort and anti-shipping ops.

What they can't really do at the moment is effective power-projection and any sort of operation that requires carrier-based fixed-wing airpower (such as providing organic aircover and support for those brand spanking new amphibs they have).

Ironic, therefore, that the first new military op they engage in (Libya) after giving up their carrier airpower is of exactly the sort that HIGHLIGHTS their self-imposed deficiency.

If the Argentinians both wanted (they do) and had the capability (which they really don't at this point) to retake the Falklands the Brits could simply not stage the kind of operation they did with Corporate in 1982. Hopefully memories of HMSes Prince of Wales and Repulse in 1942 are still fresh enough that they wouldn't try.
27 posted on 06/11/2011 5:11:30 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Grut; Venturer
He had a rather distinguished, if brief Naval Career. No HMS Pinafore about him, he was the real deal. He graduated first in his class from the Royal Naval College, and three years later was made one of he youngest first lieutenants in the Royal Navy. He saw significant combat in the Pacific and in the Mediterranean, where he distinguished himself by his initiative and leadership.
28 posted on 06/11/2011 5:13:29 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Grut; Venturer
Indeed he did.

The painting is a little out of date - but let's look at what he's wearing there.

Around his neck, he wears the red cross of the Order of Merit, which is given personally by the Queen for "distinguished service in the armed forces, science, art, literature, or for the promotion of culture." Personally I would say that in seventy years of serving the United Kingdom in all of those areas (in some cases directly, in others as a facilitator) he has earned that, but it could certainly be argued he had those opportunities because of his marriage.

The large star under his medals is the Star of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (the blue sash he wears is also a symbol of that Order). This is the oldest British (and English) Order of Knighthood and that is something he hasn't really earned - it's given to senior members of the Royal Family as a matter of tradition. It's intended to honour the other recipients who did earn the Honour by making its prestige obvious.

With those two out of the way, move on to his actual medals.

The first five of those (the star shaped ones) are campaign medals that he received for his service as an ordinary naval officer during the Second World War. He served from 1940 to 1945 all over the world, and he earned every one of those campaign stars in the same way any other British or Commonwealth servicemen earned them - by fighting in that war. 1939-1945 Star (with Oak Leaf), the Africa Star, the Atlantic Star, the Burma Star (with Pacific Rosette), and the Italy Star. He was an Officer Cadet when the war began and was commissioned in January 1940. He served all over the world right up to the end of the war - he was in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese signed the surrender. His other medals are mostly minor ceremonial medals that tens of thousands of British servicemen have that he earned in the same way they did.

29 posted on 06/11/2011 5:15:31 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: tanknetter
What they can't really do at the moment is effective power-projection and any sort of operation that requires carrier-based fixed-wing airpower (such as providing organic aircover and support for those brand spanking new amphibs they have).

True - but very few countries can do that - and the ones that really can are British allies. And while Britain can't, right at this moment, that should be a reasonably short term state of affairs. It is certainly not an ideal situation to be without proper carrier aviation for any period of time but unless Britain goes to war against the US or France, the lack isn't critical from a defensive point of view.

In terms of the Falklands, the changes made to the defences of those islands since 1982 mean there should never be any need for that type of operation again - they are guarded by a lot more than a company of Royal Marines nowadays and there are runways that allow for reinforcement if necessary.

30 posted on 06/11/2011 5:26:46 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

“...the longest-serving consort in British history...”

Now that really is a funny statment.


31 posted on 06/11/2011 6:09:51 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Grut

So I was informed. My apologies.


32 posted on 06/11/2011 6:48:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Oztrich Boy

Ha! Ha! Ha!

That was a good one! This matches up with what Prince Phillip said “The English Aristocracy is not snobbish. We have been known to marry chorus girls, even AMERICANS!!”

Points to fellow Freepers who know what this joke is about


33 posted on 06/11/2011 6:52:35 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Oztrich Boy

LOL! That’ll leave a mark.


34 posted on 06/11/2011 6:55:40 AM PDT by Vor Lady (The Lord will turn the arena of suffering into a platform of opportunity. R. Zacharias)
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To: Tredegar

That reminds me of an interview Princess Ann did right after she got married. The reporter, really snarky, asked her about her role of being a wife and if she could even “sew a button on”, referring to how pampered she was. She responded and said something like “Well, I do have a college degree, so I’m not totally useless”.... I don’t remember exactly how she worded it, but she did say the “totally useless part. I laughed so hard. She immediately became my favorite royal.


35 posted on 06/11/2011 7:04:47 AM PDT by DrewsMum (There is no other NAME whereby we may be saved....JESUS!)
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To: Explorer89
He is cute and seems to have a good sense of humor.
36 posted on 06/11/2011 7:19:36 AM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: Explorer89
He is cute and seems to have a good sense of humor.
37 posted on 06/11/2011 7:19:47 AM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: angcat

Yes he’s the funniest Eugenicist in the world. My favor Prince Phillip saying is the one where he says he wishes that when he dies he could come back as a deadly virus and kill off a large part of the Earth’s population. So witty.

The guy is a sorry nazi sympathizer crudball who wants to kill off half the world’s population. He’s living proof along with George Soros that only the good die young.


38 posted on 06/11/2011 8:30:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: naturalman1975
Damn!

 

 

Now I'll be hearing the HMS Pinafore Opera running through my brain!!

 

 

39 posted on 06/11/2011 8:55:11 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Remarkable parallels between the career of “the ruler of the Queen’s navy” and that of the present Commander-in-Chief of the US armed forces.


40 posted on 06/11/2011 9:52:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: naturalman1975

Mr. Betty Windsor.


41 posted on 06/11/2011 12:04:55 PM PDT by nd76
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To: naturalman1975

Does Phil work?

At 90 and married to a welfare queen, what was his job before he retired?

What does his wife do while she is at work?

Do you have any evidence that the Royalist Sycophants who travel to Merry Ol’ England, do so to see Phil?


42 posted on 06/11/2011 1:26:28 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: naturalman1975
Love your home page....very moving.

Rarely check out posts about the UK in this forum...so many uninformed posts.

43 posted on 06/11/2011 1:41:06 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: trumandogz
Does Phil work?

He carries out dozens of official duties on behalf of the British government every year - and he has continued to do that into his eighties. In addition to this he is involved in the running of a significant number of charities and other organisations.

At 90 and married to a welfare queen, what was his job before he retired?

First of all, educate yourself about the finances of the Royal Family. It is a very wealthy family with a considerable of private wealth. It voluntarily gives the vast majority of this wealth - on the order of 200 million pounds a year, generated by property worth over a billion pounds - to the British state. In exchange for this, the British government funds its official activities and expenses at a cost of less than twenty million pounds - in other words, the Royal Family gives the British taxpayer about ten times as much money each year as it received in return.

But to answer your question about the prince, he was a professional Naval officer during the Second World War, and after it until the Queen ascended the throne. He served with distinction during the war, and ultimately rose to the rank of Commander in the RN as a serving officer.

What does his wife do while she is at work?

A great deal. Her duties require her to be informed about every single aspect of British government and hours every day are spent on that task. In addition, she also carries out hundreds of official duties a year on behalf of her government.

Do you have any evidence that the Royalist Sycophants who travel to Merry Ol’ England, do so to see Phil?

Some do. But that's largely irrelevant. What he does is his duty under the constitutional conventions of the United Kingdom. Duties he is expected to discharge by the government and the people of the United Kingdom.

44 posted on 06/11/2011 4:14:21 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Really I had no idea. I'm just judging him from the outside.
45 posted on 06/11/2011 6:16:47 PM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Really I had no idea. I'm just judging him from the outside.
46 posted on 06/11/2011 6:17:05 PM PDT by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US!)
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To: angcat; Georgia Girl 2

He is neither a Nazi, not a eugenicist. He fought the Nazis for five years, so that accusation is particularly offensive.

Yes, he has said that if reincarnation existed, he’d like to come back as a virus, and I can understand why that offends somebody, but it has nothing to do with eugenics. It’s an position to do with overpopulation - that the world will reach a stage where there are so many humans we can’t support ourselves.


47 posted on 06/11/2011 6:31:43 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Really? And what would those parallels be?

Did Barack Obama graduate at the top of his naval class?

Did Obama fight at the Battle of Crete?

Was Obama mentioned in despatches for his actions during the Battle of Cape Matapan?

As second in command of HMS Wallace, using great ingenuity, did Obama help save his ship from a night bomber attack during the invasion of Sicily in 1943?

What about something more humble? Perhaps Obama stoked the boilers of a troop transport ship?

Hey, as Obama served in a war at all?

Perhaps, Obama was an instructor at a Petty Officer’s School?

Okay, perhaps it is the community organizer thing? Obama was a community organizer, while Prince Philip founded the world famous Duke of Edinburgh Award, which has inspired young people for close to fifty years. Maybe it’s that you are thinking of?

Prince Philip is patron of over 800 charities, has written a rulebook for a sport, and his personal motto is ‘God Is My Help’.

I’m struggling here.....help me out.

Exactly how are the careers of President Obama and the World War II veteran Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, alike?


48 posted on 06/12/2011 12:03:53 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That simply isn’t fair. To accuse a man who fought against the Nazis as being a ‘Nazi sympathiser’ is crass and classless.


49 posted on 06/12/2011 12:08:06 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: Verginius Rufus

UNLESS of course, your post referred to HMS Pinafore’s ‘Ruler of the Queen’s Navy’ and not to the current Lord High Admiral.

If that is the case Verginius Rufus you have my unreserved apologies, and my post can stand, not as a reply to you, (hey, anyone familiar with the work of Gilbert and Sullivan deserves a respectful tip of the hat, if anything) but as a riposte to those on the thread who are, with little or no basis in fact, attacking a man’s career and reputation.


50 posted on 06/12/2011 12:12:56 AM PDT by Tredegar
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