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To: Kaslin

The real problem for the American people in this debacle was that they believed that Bush was to blame for the 2008 recession when actually it was the Democrat Congress, elected in 2006 which trashed the economy, I say purposefully, in an attempt to tarnish Bush.


7 posted on 06/12/2011 5:53:11 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: ez

Bush still signed the bills.

While he is not the cause, he was part of the problem.


9 posted on 06/12/2011 5:58:07 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: ez
The real problem for the American people in this debacle was that they believed that Bush was to blame for the 2008 recession when actually it was the Democrat Congress, elected in 2006 which trashed the economy, I say purposefully, in an attempt to tarnish Bush.

Yep. I remember Bush trying to get a bit of oversight on Fannie and Freddie. I also remember Dodd and Frank publicly stating how healthy these two institutions were - about 3-4 months before they were "unexpectedly" discovered to have been trashing the global economy behind the scenes for years.

10 posted on 06/12/2011 6:02:24 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ez

“The real problem for the American people in this debacle was that they believed that Bush was to blame for the 2008 recession when actually it was the Democrat Congress, elected in 2006 which trashed the economy, I say purposefully, in an attempt to tarnish Bush.”

Bush used the “ownership society” for his own political purposes speaking of it many times in speeches. If he didn’t want what happened to happen, he, and he alone had the ability to stop it. That he didn’t stop it hardly absolves him from blame. Congress has a large part of the blame, to be sure, but Bush is not blameless as you say he is.


11 posted on 06/12/2011 6:11:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ez
The real problem for the American people in this debacle was that they believed that Bush was to blame for the 2008 recession when actually it was the Democrat Congress, elected in 2006 which trashed the economy, I say purposefully, in an attempt to tarnish Bush.

Worse than that they planned and executed the financial melt down of September '08 along with the housing crash. That was the "October Surprise" one month early.

For his entire eight years the media and the Democrats bashed Bush, starting with the mantra that he stole the 2000 election and continuing with "where were the WMDs", the costs of the two wars, the complaints about security in the Patriot Act, claiming 4.8% unemployment was too high, saying he acted like a coward immediately after 9/11, wanting an investigation of his legal advisors concerning their advice, threatening prosecutions of Bush and his aides, and on and on until the very end. That was their political strategy, country be damned. That was their version of the old legal saw, "When you have the facts pound the facts. When you don't have the facts on your side, pound the table." They pounded the table.

Concerning the article, "unexpected results" is just a variation of "unintended consequences" and neither is true. Both are smoke screens to hide their real intentions. The repeated use of "unexpected" by the media is organized. When the Journo List was exposed they simple closed shop under that name but kept up the practice elsewhere.

Another smokescreen is the claim that Obama must improve the economy to get reelected. Many, including Rush, say that liberals don't know how to create jobs, they know nothing of how an economy works. BS! They know perfectly well how Free Enterprise works and they are going in the opposite direction on purpose so that the economy doesn't improve. It is claimed they are Keynesians and are following Keynes's economic model of spend, spend, spend. The problem with that is that Keynes's policies were not an economic model. They were a model for furthering Marxism and that is what the Democrats are doing.

They think that they have been so successful through the years stacking the voter registration rolls with phony voters that they can steal every election from now on out. That doesn't mean they have stopped registering illegals, dead people, old people who don't know what they are doing, etc., while blocking votes by the military and others.

Soros at present is putting into place a plot to control the election of the Secretaries of State in 14 key states to further assure they can steal the election. Secretaries of State determine the rules, the process and then the certification of elections.

We are witnessing a coup d'etat! We must find a way to stop it.

16 posted on 06/12/2011 7:46:06 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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