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Bob Dole in Russell: Gen. David Petraeus should be GOP nominee for president
The Midwest Democracy Project ^ | June 12, 2011 | Steve Kraske

Posted on 06/13/2011 11:30:31 AM PDT by Nonstatist

Bob Dole didn’t hesitate this weekend out in Russell when asked who the Republican Party should nominate for president next year.

Gen. David Petraeus, Dole said, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan who’s about to become CIA director.

“We need another Eisenhower,” Dole said.

He also fretted that President Obama will build a huge warchest, and the GOP nominee will be essentially starting from scratch after the primaries are over next year.

That will give Obama a huge — but not necessarily an insurmountable edge, Dole said.

As to the Tea Party? Dole said he thought he was conservative until this group came along. He’s still trying to figure them out.

(Excerpt) Read more at midwestdemocracyproject.org ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; dole; loser; petraeus; petraeus2012
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To: bwc2221
We don’t need a moderate Republican ex-general. Eisenhower appointed SC justices Earn Warren and Thomas Brennan.

Eisenhower said that Warren was one of the worst appointments he made.

A couple of strike outs after many singles, doubles, and as General, Grand Slams, doesn't diminsh Ike as one of the better Presidents.

21 posted on 06/13/2011 12:22:43 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: ex-snook

“He ended the Korean war, built the interstate highway system and was scandal free. Just what we need today.”

You forgot to mention “Operation Wetback” yes that was it’s name. Here’s just a little tidbit from wikipedia on this extremely successful operation:

“Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions per day. By the end of July, over 50,000 illegal aliens were caught in the two states. An estimated 488,000 illegal aliens are believed to have left voluntarily, for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimated that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas of their own accord. To discourage illicit re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexican territory before releasing them.”

I would agree that another Eisenhower would be desirable but I don’t think Pratraeus is even close to Eisenhower’s league.


22 posted on 06/13/2011 12:35:19 PM PDT by Graneros (I want to go peacefully like my Dad did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Graneros
"I would agree that another Eisenhower would be desirable but I don’t think Pratraeus is even close to Eisenhower’s league."

Eisenhower would be a tough act to follow.

23 posted on 06/13/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Nonstatist

Maybe Dole and Weiner can team up to do Viagra commercials.

You know.... kind of a before and after thing.


24 posted on 06/13/2011 12:51:27 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Nonstatist

Bob Who?


25 posted on 06/13/2011 12:58:19 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

I’ve read by the end of his administration Ike realized he had been wrong about his policy toward Egypt.


26 posted on 06/13/2011 1:03:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ex-snook

As long as he doesn’t give another Earl Warren.


27 posted on 06/13/2011 1:06:47 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Nonstatist

This is one of those threads that puzzle me. Why was it posted? Does anybody, anywhere, care what Dole thinks about anything?


28 posted on 06/13/2011 1:09:29 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Nonstatist

“Hey, you Tea Party kids get off my lawn!”

Bless him, I’m getting old too.


29 posted on 06/13/2011 1:15:41 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: colorado tanker

Didn’t know that...thanks.


30 posted on 06/13/2011 1:22:20 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; bwc2221; Defiant; Graneros

Generals for President? like Grant?
...and Eisenhower, was the cause of MUCH of the middle-east problems today.
if he had supported England in 1956...
the world would be totally different today.
for that alone, i rate Eisenhower the worst EVER.

...Wesly Clark is a joke. Colin Powell? ENDORSED Obama!

and Petraus, could have fought more against those INSANE ROE that are KILLING our own, while sparing the enemy. (instead, he supported those ROE, from what i read.)

if anything is worth losing your job over, it’s the lives of your men.

Colonel West had to make that choice, as did Petraeus.

Frankly, i’d follow that Colonel anywhere.
But the Rhinos want to draft Petraeus,
(or Huntsman, or Romney, or Perry, or ANYONE not a true conservative like West...)


31 posted on 06/13/2011 1:49:42 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Nonstatist
As to the Tea Party? Dole said he thought he was conservative until this group came along.

Yeah, but we didn't. We thought of him as the "tax collect for the welfare state." Which is why he lost...

32 posted on 06/13/2011 1:51:27 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Perhaps you’re mixing social conservatism with constitutional originalist conservatism?

My experiences with senior officers in the active Army and National Guard is different. That’s OK, as long as we respectfully disagree we’re golden. I could tell you some shocking stories though and one former full bird did jail time. Maybe it’s because I live in Oregon and all the whackjobs in the world seem to end up here?


33 posted on 06/13/2011 2:13:32 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

Ha ha. Liberal whackjobs? I live in MA. You would not have to school me in identifying liberal idiots!


34 posted on 06/13/2011 2:42:50 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Is there anyone that Obama won't toss under the bus?)
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To: Nonstatist

I wouldn’t trust/accept any high military officer to be cognizant of my civilian experience unless he/she has publicly stated very clearly and convincingly that they believe the Constitution is still applicable for our modern world. I always thought of Ike as very, very good for stabilizing this Nation after the trauma of WWII. I also believe Ike gave very appropriate comments as to foreign involvements although I questioned him as to the crisis in Lebanon. Petraeus hasn’t shown me anything that brings him up to Ike.If we are in need of a military look for someone like Patton. Until then West stands out.


35 posted on 06/13/2011 4:38:52 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: ex-snook
By your way of thinking, Clinton was our greatest President ever. The economy was better than ever, growth was high, employment was high, taxes were low.

Between 1945 and 1953, there was a movement among Republicans to undo what Roosevelt had done. Eisenhower settled it by accepting the welfare state as a done deal, rather than fight to be rid of it. He was pro business within the confines of the New Deal's assault on capitalism, and he was strong on defense. Just like Nixon, Rockefeller, romney, Ford and all the other country club Republicans. In fact, in those days, they really were country clubbers.

There was no conservative movement or internet then. Bill Buckley was still pimplefaced. If we had the intellectual underpinning and the means of communication then that we do now, we would have been opposing Eisenhower. His closest equivalent now is probably Evan Bayh or Romney.

36 posted on 06/13/2011 6:49:47 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: Nonstatist
This guy is still alive?

Amazing.

Next he'll be endorsing a baloney sandwich.

37 posted on 06/13/2011 6:52:33 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Elendur

I dont consider Eisenhower the worst ever. He was far superior to the alternative. But with his moral authority, he could have rolled back F D R in socialism’s infancy, and he didnt want to. For that, I place a lot of the blame for America’s subsequent rot on him. Not to mention his judges.


38 posted on 06/13/2011 6:54:45 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: Nonstatist

Bless his little heart. There’s a reason BobDole never became US President.


39 posted on 06/13/2011 6:55:10 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Elendur

Just to be clear, I am not in support of Petraeus for President. How can I be? I’ve never heard him take one position on any of the important issues of the day. It would be insane to support a man when you haven’t heard one of his positions.

As for that ROE. That was in place in Afghnistan while the former chucklehead was running the show. I believe that since Petraeus was put in, they have changed the ROE.


40 posted on 06/14/2011 5:23:07 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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