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SWAT Team Mania: The War Against the American Citizen
rutherford.org ^ | 13 June, 2011 | John W. Whitehead

Posted on 06/14/2011 4:17:25 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Travis McGee

Why did this ever develop in the the first place? My sense of things is that there is a trajectory we have been on for decades (at least) leading to exactly the loss of American Constitutional government.

The question remains, how, or why, did we start along this trajectory? I suggest it is a tendency in evidence by things like Colonel House’s “Edmund Drew” at a very early date. Maybe even earlier, but not so thought out as a developed worldview.


41 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:05 AM PDT by hfr (All their views twisted into news)
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To: hfr
Most folks trace the inception of the modern SWAT team to the aftermath of the Charles Whitman/Texas Tower sniper even at the UT in the 1960s, when the local police had no response protocols for such an event.
42 posted on 06/14/2011 6:04:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: bvw

Now they just shove women to the ground, terrorize the kids, shoot the pet dogs and stomp on the kittens.


43 posted on 06/14/2011 6:05:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
"My prediction: One day soon, a very prominent person (hopefully a Congress-Critter) will get caught up in one of these incidents with injury/death resulting and then (and only then) will we witness a backlash, calls for hearings and a reigning in of these para-military, Jack-Booted, Fascist, Thugs!"

It's beginning to look like one needs to have IEDs at one's entrances and the willingness to shoot first to take some with you when they wrongly break down your door to start your punishment, deserved or not.

44 posted on 06/14/2011 6:07:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MrB

Both the Sheriff and the local City Police have SWAT teams.


45 posted on 06/14/2011 6:09:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

The solution to a sheriff that doesn’t understand or fulfill his duty

is to elect another sheriff.


46 posted on 06/14/2011 6:11:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: samtheman
End the War on Drugs and you end 90% of the justification for these unspeakable savages. I know they'll come up with other reasons (like unpaid student loans), but taking away the War on Drugs will go a long way towards pulling the carpet out from under their feet.

A classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Reading Ann Coulter's latest book regarding the "mob", the para-military units that have overrun our police and fire departments (yes, Austin FD has a "Regional Strike Force" and a "Special Operations Battalion") in my opinion, are yet another manifestation of the liberals trying to destroy the system so that We The People no longer trust, rather now detest and are repulsed by government law enforcement.

I wonder how long it will be before we hear of IEDs used routinely as perimeter defense against such offensive police action.

I have no reason to expect such a raid on my home, yet in the event of having to relocate, it is now a security decision to not only know the neighborhood, but also the history of the existing property. For example, say I was to look at some property owned by what appears to be a well compensated executive, if his child was black-sheep or if he himself managed to irritate an OIG over some pittance, even though he has long sold the house and is living in another part of the country, we know that government can't be bothered with any level of recon or simply confirming the address. Do I now have to sleep in clothes suitable for being hog-tied in while out on the front lawn for half the day as thugs ransack the home looking for the previous occupant?

It would seem that architects would have a new specialty to offer, and that is designs of a home that would stymie the thugs efforts to get to the owners and their children quickly, affording the owner time to call for legal representation (since obviously the criminals engaged in the lethal violence against you are on the other end of 911)

Now we can design labyrinth entryways with water features. Master bedrooms as strong rooms. Window designs intended to withstand teargas rounds fired at them, fence work and landscaping designed to injure the fast moving intruder coming at night. Will we need to string up piano wire in our hallways as a inexpensive last resort to protect us from being beaten into a coma, gunned down, or at the least thrown out in the front lawn in something we would never be seen in public?

Your neighbors voted for this demonic crap, now we have to live like Jews in Nazi Germany or Christians in present day Nigeria, or white farmers in Zimbabwe. Its Mogadishu because our politicians hate us and know we hate them, and now have a military guard to protect them and harass us.

47 posted on 06/14/2011 6:12:22 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: MrB

The Chief of Police in a City is typically appointed. It’d be better if the City did not have a SWAT team.


48 posted on 06/14/2011 6:12:51 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I certainly agree there.
The CoP has to be appointed by an elected person, though.

And I understand, some cities are so ‘rat infested that there’s no way to get a non-corrupt mayor or sheriff elected.

In that case, I’d suggest moving, perhaps to the northwest, away from the concentrated blue cesspools.


49 posted on 06/14/2011 6:15:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Travis McGee
*** In return, the local SWAT serves as a force multiplier for the FLEAs ***

Yep, they use use them like the US Army SF uses a 'force multiplier'. A six man SF 'A Team' can get a MIKE Force (force multiplier) battle ready in a 'relatively' short time (the Hmong were eager 'students').

But the thing is everyone with a TV and a brain knows how SWAT makes 'an entry'. And one person with a shotgun and alternating loads can hold them at bay -- given a few seconds notice.

First comes the verbal 'warrant warning' of entry (open up), 10 seconds later comes the battering ram, then the Flash-Bang. A few seconds later SWAT enters to 'clear the room'.

The 'target' only needs to be ready, and first avert his eyes of the flash from the grenade, then open up with a Buckshot round or two aimed low (legs), then Slug Rounds that'll go through any 'body armor'. Then SWAT will have to retreat. Even a 20ga would do, 12ga not required.

I'm not advising this or any violence against Police. I'm very Pro Police and Law and Order. I'm 'just sayin'.

Waco was a prime example of an entry gone bad.
The Davidians knew what the ATF SWAT Team would do, and they lost two officers in the process.

50 posted on 06/14/2011 6:15:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: marktwain

From appearances, most are bullies trapped in perpetual adolescence trying to hide their manly inadequacies by playing Rambo against unarmed enemies at taxpayer expense. Police work attracts a number of different types of people. One type becoming more prevalent are the control freaks who get their jollies telling people what to do and showing you their ‘power’. They are the ‘respect my authority’ types. These kinds of people are especially attracted to SWAT and other special units.


51 posted on 06/14/2011 6:17:20 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Hey D. C., tax increases are not spending cuts. Nor do tax cuts constitute increased spending.)
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Self ping for later.


52 posted on 06/14/2011 6:22:20 AM PDT by dsm69
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To: hfr
Not enough coffee!!! “Phillip Dru”

Ok, I have to add this. Around the turn of the century (19th to 20th) racism and anti-foreign prejudice (ie: anyone not of English heritage) peaked. I mean that in the US, England, as well in Germany racism was a dominant motif in the culture.

Here in the US, the “wasp” oligarchy saw the need to do something to “protect” their world. That was seminal to the worldview that lead to things like the abortive League of Nations, and now the UN. This worldview also accounts for the way western powers began surrendering their colonial possessions after WWII. It also accounts for our policy towards helping China develop - all part of bringing “them” into the “civilized family of nations”.

Essentially it was a racist worldview seeking to accommodate emerging realities beyond their power to suppress. I suppose that by today it has transmogrified into what we now see the first glimmerings of: a world police state.

Voila, Maybury RFD now has Barney running the SWAT untits.

Conspiratorial eh? But racism has a pretty big footprint in the world. Its true history hasn't been told yet.

53 posted on 06/14/2011 6:23:09 AM PDT by hfr (Tin foil and coffee, tin foil and coffee.)
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To: marktwain

This article barely scratches the surface of the problem...


54 posted on 06/14/2011 6:23:23 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: marktwain

Our militarized “law enforcement” agencies are the “standing army” the Founders feared.


55 posted on 06/14/2011 6:25:48 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (End the "Fiscal Fiasco" in 2012!)
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To: Paladin2

Yup. Looks like I may have to start keeping my AK loaded and near me instead of my 9mm.

Note: I do not keep the safety on when it is in my hand.

I am not a criminal. I mind my own business. Work hard and DO NOT trample on anyones rights. My home is MY castle.

“Give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH.”


56 posted on 06/14/2011 6:26:09 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: MichaelP

Remember, we were all GPSed according to voting preferences!!!!


57 posted on 06/14/2011 6:26:57 AM PDT by STD ('Be Ye holy, for I am holy')
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To: MichaelP

Hitler’s Schutzstaffel (SS) started out as a small paramilitary organization and blossomed into a killing machine.

Whether it is Hitler, Stalin, et al, the Left loves to terrorize its own citizenry into quiet submission with paramilitary force. They see their citizenry as the enemy and treat them as such.

As America descends into third world status I expect to see the SWAT teams become more and more like the death squads heard about in third world countries like Central and South America. Guerena and others are just the beginning of the deathfest for our blackshirts.

I’d certainly love to hear from any law enforcement who thinks this is a good trend with the Nazification of our law enforcement organizations.


58 posted on 06/14/2011 6:28:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

what all of this is “begging for” is a unified National Swat Team Agency...NSTA...coming to you shortly...courtesy of FEMA/NSA/CIA/FBI.....


59 posted on 06/14/2011 6:30:53 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: momtothree

The Overdue Library Book Swat Team!


60 posted on 06/14/2011 6:31:52 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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