Posted on 06/17/2011 12:04:47 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
The EU also doesnt have the testicular fortitude to fight a war. Most are a bunch of wusses and the russkies would beat the shyte out of them. They are a continent of beta males as most their alpha males first moved to the US long ago while the rest died in two world wars. Sure they may be a few tough ones but the majority of euros are sissys and yes I have be all over europe. Girly men.
Yeah whatever.
Of course the gripen, eurofighter, f-18... and on and on are not able to win a dogfight.
And believe it or not they really have more then 1 plane for every model.
Again just because europeans don´t use most of its hardware to fight in foreign countries does not mean that they don´t have it.
As said in generall most europeans have finally enought from war.
This is a fact.
last statistic from 2008
The combined defence budgets of the 27 EU member states in 2008 amounted to €284.9 billion ($406,7 billion). This represents 1.63% of European Union GDP[, second only to the US military’s €477.4 billion ($620.5 billion) 2008
This year i guess the US did spend 700 Billion but again beside the US nobody else even spends half of the money the EU countries do.
But ok never let get facts in your way.
What not 500 european leopard 2 tanks in afghanistan?
(Sorry they are back home).
Same for most of the airplanes.
(Because most european contries simple have no interesst in bombing libya)
As said just because they are not used does not mean that they don´t exist.
“The Danish military has therefore asked Holland for help.”
You know you’re in trouble when.....you have to ask Holland for help. “We’re out of bombs. Do you have any tulip bulbs we could drop on them? Wooden shoes?”
The EU also doesnt have the testicular fortitude to fight a war. Most are a bunch of wusses and the russkies would beat the shyte out of them. They are a continent of beta males as most their alpha males first moved to the US long ago while the rest died in two world wars. Sure they may be a few tough ones but the majority of euros are sissys and yes I have be all over europe. Girly men.
Im not talking about Afghanistan, Im talking about europe in general. If you think Afghanistan is a total war scenario and your small force there is applicable I feel sorry for you. Russia would give you a total war and you would lose for my stated reasons. They own the germans with energy already.
Well while you keep dreaming about a war with russia that will not happen i feel pretty safe here.
Weapons like this should be enoughtt hold of non existent enemies from german land and on larger scale from the EU ;-)
As said only because you don´t believe it doesn´t change reality (this is just a small part from the german army) the european armies are well capable of defending our own land without help from the US.
As said we don´t use them in foreign countries.
But make no mistake we have them and so do other EU countries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3rNEpwsLw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gUYOB1TdLQ
Im sure your caveat engagement forces are ready for russia. I know the Euro capability and its lacking. Im sure russia is shaking over you tube vids. Russia would do the same thing as the US would if we attacked the EU. We would destroy all your air defenses and achieve air dominance in around 2-3 days. They have spy satellites to and know exactly where your air defenses and other military assets are. Yes they may not be able to roll over the EU as easy as US air power would but they would win and your tanks would be targets from the sky. This is all hypothetical but to say that the EU alone without any help from the US could defeat russia is a damned joke.
again you have no clue about european air forces.
Did you know that there are about 580 eurofighters alone in use at the moment?
And only 5 eu countries fly the eurofighter.
Now add all the f16, f18 , raffael, gripen, tornados...
from the rest of the 22 members to this fleet and you have an really powerfull airforce.
Jesus christ a continental invasion is not a game of “risk”
Nobody can invade an area this large.
Not the US, NOT Russia, Not the EU the other way around.
You would need millions of troops and nobody has a military this big right now.
Just a question how many planes has the US in europe?
50? maybe even 100? as if this would make any difference.
When the EU countries alone operate more than 1000.
US would if we attacked the EU. We would destroy all your air defenses and achieve air dominance in around 2-3 days.
That's funny right there.
About a dozen or so, last I heard.
When they run out of bombs Gadaffi will claim victory.
Much like the fighter standing there, his face a bloody mass, saying “He isn’t hitting me as hard as he was, must be getting tired, I am wearing him down”.
Remember Saddam, when BUSH II went after him - ‘I am the true leader, where is George H W Bush, Maggie Thatcher? They are gone, I am still here’
When they run out of bombs Gadaffi will claim victory.
Much like the fighter standing there, his face a bloody mass, saying “He isn’t hitting me as hard as he was, must be getting tired, I am wearing him down”.
Remember Saddam, when BUSH II went after him - ‘I won the last time. I am still the leader, where is George H W Bush, Maggie Thatcher? They are gone, I am still here’
About a dozen or so, last I heard.
But defence in our own backyard is something totally different.
Poor guy doesnt understand the concept of salvos of long range missle strikes and stand off weaponry decapitating command and control and air defense.
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