Posted on 06/17/2011 5:41:55 AM PDT by marktwain
But I'd become really comfortable with state Rep. Scott Perry, R-Dillsburg. He's not my legislator. I've never had a chance to vote for him. But he does represent fellow York countians, and I'd come to respect the way he thought.
I saw him as a hard worker. I saw him as a man with character. And I saw him as someone who had his priorities in order.
Oh, and one more thing -- I saw him as a solid patriot. He was a man who not only cared about Pennsylvania, but the United States, as well.
In case you have forgotten -- I haven't -- Perry served a one-year tour of duty in Iraq with the Pennsylvania National Guard a couple of years ago, while he was an elected legislator in the state General Assembly.
He continued to serve his constituents from Iraq, by computer and whatever other forms of communication he could manage, the best he could.
I admired that.
And I said so.
But now I'm wondering if some of the bricks in Perry's load haven't fallen off the wagon.
Because Perry said something a couple weeks ago that has brought me up short. I've spent two weeks pondering his comment, trying to figure out a way to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But the more I think about it, the more I hear or read Perry's explanation of what he really meant to say, the more second thoughts I'm having.
This is what Perry was reported as having said for a May 30 story in the Allentown Morning Call: "We must be able not only to hunt but to protect ourselves from an overbearing government that does not do the will of the people."
(Excerpt) Read more at yorkdispatch.com ...
This is a publication in Pennsylvania.
Hicks is an insulting, ignorant, arrogant asshat.
Right up until the adoption of the Constitution of 1790 NO NON QUAKER could hold public office in that state. That's what that "no religious test" clause is about ~ to make it possible for non-Quakers to run for Congress!
The gentleman's statement in Virginia wouldn't be exceptional. In Pennsylvania it is exceptional.
The solution is to NOT LIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA. They'll just never be right in the head.
This guy Hicks is the kind of fellow that would
gladly put the chains on his neighbors.
I want and we need politicians who believe and understand this, otherwise we are subjects.
I don't believe we're anywhere near the point where armed revolt is necessary, but what do the People do when the government institutions are inhabited and controlled by people who have no respect for the law? What, for example, do we do when the chief enforcer no longer enforces, congress acts as though its powers are unlimited, and judges no longer adjudicate, they legislate?
But this is 2011. In this country, times have changed, I think. I hope. And even if they haven't, does anyone in his or her right mind think a bunch of citizens with handguns and rifles stand a snowball's chance in Hades against an organized military with the fire power of our government?
I guess the writer wasn't paying attention a few years back when a few Iraqi Insurgents armed with guns and Improvised explosives came perilously close, but for the surge, of driving us out of Iraq. But more to the his point, I think the general consensus is that if their ever arose a tyrannical enough government in the USA that a good portion of the citizenry took up arms against it. Much of the military would side with the patriots or at minimum refuse orders to fire on fellow Americans.
“We must be able not only to hunt but to protect ourselves from an overbearing government that does not do the will of the people.”
And what is wrong with that Mr. Hicks? Is it any more incorrect than why we have a first amendment? You are free to run your blather in the local rag because of its constitutional protection which is just as important today as it was in 1775. You see Mr. Hicks, certain rights are inalienable, and as such they transend time. Furthermore, there was no more a guarantee the colonists would defeat the best armed and as superior a fighting force as were the British during which time the idea of gun ownership was believed to be the underpinning of freedom. You are right in one thing Mr. Hicks, defeating as powerful an army as the Executive could muster today with small arms is not achievable but that also assumes the citizen soldiers would follow the orders from a tyranical government...I have faith in their choosing the correct course of action which is to follow legal orders based on our constitution.
brilliant point!
(i’ll have to try that out on some liberal friends...)
and Perry’s statement is remarkable mild compared to “refreshing the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots” and others from our Founding Fathers.
They would probably call Perry a wimp.
(and what would they call the average American today?)
“We must be able not only to hunt but to protect ourselves from an overbearing government that does not do the will of the people.”
That statement is EXACTLY why we must be armed
I'm sure glad George Washington didn't feel this way in 1776 :)
“Legislator shouldn’t advocate armed revolt”
Our founders did. I think they would in 2011, too, or in 2013 if we don’t have a fair and legitimate election November 6th, 2012.
What benefit of the doubt? He said exactly what he meant to say and exactly what most real Americans believe. We are not servants of the ruling class. We are free Americans, and the government serves at our pleasure, not us at their command. The right of the people to keep and bear arms was given to us by God and protected in the "Supreme Law of the Land" specifically for the reason given by Perry, not to protect hunting and target shooting. The Constitution is about human rights, including political rights, not about protecting recreation and entertainment.
It is a tenet of Natural Law that you have the right to revolution as the ultimate means of throwing-off a government.
The Founders knew that one man, alone, could not cause a revolution, neither could 20 men working together.
This need for a large group of like-minded men to engage in revolution creates a built-in check and balance.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Are the pro-oppressive’s goosestepping all over our unalienable rights? I think so. If so it is our “right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government”.
The Declaration of Independence makes it clear. These are not light and transient causes.
Your second, not so much. The Founders of this Nation rose up against their King for much less that we are suffering under right now. We are MUCH closer to armed revolt right than we have at any point in over a hundred years...
Dead Corpse: “We are MUCH closer to armed revolt right than we have at any point in over a hundred years...”
Perhaps, but another FReeper made the excellent point that armed revolt is really only possible if it’s a popular revolt. In that sense, we are nowhere near the point where a significant minority, like 1/3 or even 1/4, would support armed revolution. I know I wouldn’t. You’re only talking about a very, very tiny minority who would even consider it at this point. Also, there’s always the possibility of a revolt from the left, too. I actually think more of them are ready to resort to violence than us.
Our founders did. I think they would in 2011, too, or in 2013 if we don’t have a fair and legitimate election November 6th, 2012.
Every so often it seems a reminder to all around here is a good idea:
18 USC § 2385
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