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Hate to admit it, sometimes, but I'm on their side, in this one. I want a secular government that makes few demands on, and has little interest in, any religion. “El al Id” and Passover aren’t government holidays, and Christmas shouldn’t be, either. Homos should be allowed to marry, but they and the government shouldn’t be able to force any church to perform the rump-reaming ceremony.
1 posted on 06/17/2011 6:28:01 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough
I do not believe the Gummint should be in the marriage business....

Marriage should be the purview of the churches that performs such ceremonies...I could not have gotten married in the Catholic Church I was married in if I did not agree to certain religious regulations (you can be assured that a man-woman marriage is #1 on that list)

the state only needs to be concerned with contracts between people...let the state give out civil unions.

let the various churches give out marriages.(all marriages to be called civil unions by the govt...)

3 posted on 06/17/2011 6:44:43 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: flowerplough

Gov. Andrew Cuomo is lobbying individual senators in a quest to secure what appears to be one more BLOW to New York


4 posted on 06/17/2011 6:55:20 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: flowerplough

If its not a man-woman relationship, it is an arrangement/agreement/contract.

What people want to do in their bedrooms is not the government’s business. If the government wants to grant special legal status for two men, or a man and his mother, two-and-a-half men or a woman and her dog, that’s up to the voters who elect the government.

But it is NOT a “marriage” unless it is between a man and a woman.

Do not give a religious label to this abomination.


5 posted on 06/17/2011 7:06:18 AM PDT by kidd
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flowerplough: “Homos should be allowed to marry...”

You’re on the wrong site if you’re advocating for gay marriage.


6 posted on 06/17/2011 7:07:10 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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Cuomo should support this ticket next year:


7 posted on 06/17/2011 7:12:03 AM PDT by csmusaret (Sarah says "Drill baby drill." Obama says "Drill in Brazil.")
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9 posted on 06/17/2011 7:39:40 AM PDT by PMAS
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Why not put the gay marriage question to a statewide referendum vote??

Oh, that's right. THESE SUPER-LIB DIKTATS ALWAYS LOSE WHEN THE PEASANTS ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE!!!

From, literally, Maine to California, gay marriage amendments have ALWAYS lost.

The commies keep hoping that enough brainwashing propaganda will change the basic truth of people actually knowing that homosex is a sickness. They have been moving the focus of self-justifying lies to a younger and more malleable group. (Now it's elementary school students who are being told that there are homosexual third graders that need to have the freedom to cross-dress and it's a hate crime to laugh and sneer...)

Opinion: Parents who try to claim that their Little Johnnie is actually a Jane, trapped in the wrong body, should be charged with child abuse, like it would have been for the last 5,000 YEARS!

10 posted on 06/17/2011 7:41:48 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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Those who advocate gay marriage are tools:

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”


12 posted on 06/17/2011 8:13:37 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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Hate to admit it, sometimes, but I'm on their side, in this one. I want a secular government that makes few demands on, and has little interest in, any religion. “El al Id” and Passover aren’t government holidays, and Christmas shouldn’t be, either. Homos should be allowed to marry, but they and the government shouldn’t be able to force any church to perform the rump-reaming ceremony.

Allowing sodomites to marry is an affront to six thousand years of Judeo-Christian culture.

You and the other libertarians need to understand that governments have been in the marriage business for centuries, it is a necessary function.

If sodomites want some sort of agreement for financial reasons there is NOTHING that prohibits them from entering into a legal partnership.

14 posted on 06/17/2011 11:06:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Be sure to click the FreeRepublic homosexual agenda keyword search link for a list of all related articles. We don't ping you to all related articles so be sure to click the previous link to see the latest articles.

Add keywords homosexual agenda to flag FR articles to this ping list.

There are SEVERAL posters on this thread pushing militant homosexualism!

15 posted on 06/17/2011 11:12:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: flowerplough
I want a secular government

Then you wouldn't have liked the Founders.

Homos should be allowed to marry

Homosexual marriage is impossible as they can't mate. They can only simulate genuine mating.

Any legal questions can be dealt with by a lawyer, wills,power of attorney etc.

16 posted on 06/17/2011 11:23:33 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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Heterosexual monogamous marriage is the bedrock of human civilization and so-called same-sex marriage will be its undoing. Civil union is nothing but a device to grease the rails for same-sex marriage. The polygamists and beast-boinkers are hopping on this bandwagon and you can be sure they'll be piping up next under the mantra that the government shouldn't be involved. This is one area where the Government should be involved.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
22 posted on 06/17/2011 11:35:15 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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Homos should be allowed to marry,

Then of what value is marriage? If homosexuals can marry then why not brothers and sisters or fathers and daughters? Why same sex only? Why not allow a group of swingers to marry maybe 3 husbands and 3 wives all married together? Hey what is stopping polygamists from demanding the same rights and priviledges accorded two person marriages? Why limit it to people?

I suspect your solution is to just refuse to have the government get involved in Family Law altogether. No Marriages, no Divorces, no child custody suits, no adoptions, no family recognition whatsoever.

Hey, this is a conservative forum not a nut-job libertarian forum. And this country was founded on Christian and Jewish customs and laws. If you were a conservative you would want to conserve the foundations that made this country great. But instead you appear to be some kind of anarchist libertarian that wants to destroy the very fabric of our society by denying the basis upon which this nation was founded.

If you want to spew these stupid ideas, I suggest you find a new forum to spew them.

23 posted on 06/17/2011 11:37:19 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Free Republic is pro-family and 100% opposed to the homosexual agenda. If you’re going to lobby for the homosexual agenda I’d appreciate it if you take your business elsewhere.


27 posted on 06/17/2011 11:41:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: flowerplough; wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; trisham; BykrBayb
Hate to admit it, sometimes, but I'm on their side, in this one. I want a secular government that makes few demands on, and has little interest in, any religion.

You mean like the USSR? NK? The USSR? Cuba? Pol Pot? Mao?

Take your pick of the secular government or dictator you'd like to live under. There's plenty to choose from.

37 posted on 06/17/2011 12:18:47 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: flowerplough
“El al Id” and Passover aren’t government holidays, and Christmas shouldn’t be, either.

When Congress made Christmas a national holiday, they cited the fact that Jesus was the greatest philosopher who ever lived. Seeing that His teachings are the underpinning of Western Civilization, it is somewhat absurd to give Washington and Lincoln holidays and not the man who inspired all of what they fought for.

92 posted on 06/19/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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