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Time to Buy a New, Used Car, what is the Conservative, Free Market Choice?
06.20.11 | chickensoup (who else?)

Posted on 06/20/2011 6:52:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup

Need a new vehicle.

Have a quarter mile private road.

Have snowy winters, muddy springs, hot summers and wet autumns.

Have a Nissen Xterra four wheel drive, four years old with tow rack and a little trailer (my wagon) so that is my truck.

Need a second car to share both vehicles with teen son.

Need something relatively efficient, safe, durable, and as a bonus, with less instead of more. I was hankering back to my 84 Saab 900. No fluff, no computer just motor and body.

Other options appreciated. Jeep?

Planning to spend 7 to 9000.

Son is not particularly mechanical.

I am mostly decorative.


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Need a new vechicle.

Have a quarter mile private road.

Have snowy winters, muddy springs, hot summers and wet autumns.

Have a Nissen Xterra four wheel drive, four years old with tow rack and a little trailer so that is my truck.

Need a second car to share both vechiles with teen son. Need something relatively efficient, safe, durable, and as a bonus, with less instead of more. I was hankering back to my 84 Saab 900. No fluff, no computer just motor and body.

Other options appreciated. Jeep?

Planning to spend 7 to 9000.

Son is not particularly mechanical.

I am mostly decorative.

1 posted on 06/20/2011 6:52:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

Check the April issue of Consumer Reports ofr reliable good cars in every price range—it is a separate article.

Best bets are Toyotas, Hondas, later model Nissans, and later model Hyundais.

Stay away from GM and Chrysler unless you are a glutton for punishment.

Ford is a mixed bag. German and British cars are trouble prone and expensive to fix.

Japanese and Korean(not Kias) are pretty reliable and cost effective, even in your price range.


2 posted on 06/20/2011 6:58:28 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Chickensoup

You pose an interesting question since you imply you need 4WD. I would try an old Honda Civic with Goodyear Ultragrip snow tires. They are a pretty good snow car.


3 posted on 06/20/2011 6:58:44 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Chickensoup

Chevy Volt...it will light up your life.


4 posted on 06/20/2011 6:59:34 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: Chickensoup

Buy something five to seven years old, if you can find it with less than 75,000 mileage, preferrably front-wheel drive like a Taurus. Keep good tires on it and change the oil every 5K. You can get a six years old Taurus in fine shape for around six grand and put the rest in insurance and fuel.


5 posted on 06/20/2011 7:00:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: exit82

I bet I can get that at the library.


6 posted on 06/20/2011 7:00:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: max americana

Oh my goodness, now I will have that song stuck in my head the rest of my sleepless night. The obama/Volt theme song.


7 posted on 06/20/2011 7:01:42 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Chickensoup
No Jeeps. They used to be good but haven't been reliable for awhile now. My son's friends all seem to have Jeeps and they have nothing but problems. Last week his girlfriend's Jeep quit in the middle of nowhere for the THIRD time and he had to go fetch her (in his Ford Ranger). Part of his friends' problem may be that they are all 19-25 years old, but some 'more mature' adults that I know have problems with their Jeeps too.

My choice for plain vanilla transportation was a Ford F-150. Bought it used, it was a trade-in from a large construction company that trades in all its supervisor's trucks every 2-3 years. The fleet division of our Ford dealer got 10 or so of them at once and was happy to deal. It was MUCH cheaper than any SUV I could have bought (like 1/3 the price!) and a sedan wouldn't have done the job for me since I'm hauling hunting dogs around.

My only requirements were 4WD and limited slip since I spend a lot of time actually driving off road. Since it was a company work truck it had very few of the creature comfort options -- electric windows, the big V8, and the tow package was about it. I did spring for a camper cap to put on the bed, so my dogs could ride in crates instead of an aluminum dog box.

I have put about 50K on it (had 50K when I bought it) and it has been an extremely reliable -- if plain-Jane -- ride so far.

8 posted on 06/20/2011 7:01:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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Need a second car to share both vehicles with teen son.

Teen son? You need something slow and indestructible. I have a '88 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. Full frame 360cid, 2 barrel that has real 4 wheel drive. Might be heavy on gas but he won't get any speeding tickets. And when he rolls it over texting some chick, he will walk away from the wreck.

All the drive train parts are still available and sometimes cheap.

9 posted on 06/20/2011 7:01:56 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

How old an honda civic. I dont necessarily need 4 WD because we can trade off the Xterra and there are only certain days and times that I have to be someplace.

otherwise we can trade.


10 posted on 06/20/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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How old an honda civic. I dont necessarily need 4 WD because we can trade off the Xterra and there are only certain days and times that I have to be someplace.

otherwise we can trade.


11 posted on 06/20/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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To: Chickensoup

Ford F series pickups last forever.


12 posted on 06/20/2011 7:02:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Chickensoup

The conservative choice is buy whatever you like, and find to be a good value. Reward the busines (and it’s customer) who made good decisions.

Or, punish someone who made a bad decision and lost a lot of depreciation.


13 posted on 06/20/2011 7:02:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (End the "Fiscal Fiasco" in 2012!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

A good car with studded snow tires could easily meet my needs.


14 posted on 06/20/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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For a durable used car that can handle winter weather, why not a retired police cruiser.

A Crown Vic weighs more than 2 tons, is durable and can easily make it through heavy snow. Enough room under the hood for less capable mechanics to work on without special skills.

Plenty of safety there for a teenager, and not as much chance of it rolling it over as there would be with a truck or SUV.


15 posted on 06/20/2011 7:03:51 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Chickensoup

Honda Civic
Toyota Corolla


16 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:00 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Chickensoup

Subaru is a good choice.


17 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:03 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Chickensoup

Pick up ANOTHER Xterra


18 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:27 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: max americana

I could never buy a Volt. I would be in political pain for weeks on end. Then I would have to take it out and shoot it.


19 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The right to bear arms is proved to prevent government genocide. Protect yourself!)
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j/k on the last post. Good to know to you didn;t get rid of the Xterra as that is my current truck in canada. It got me out of a deep hole during the great snow storm of 08 in BC. Consider an Audi, used. Drove an A4 before moving up to MB and it’s a sweet ride.

the miliage of an A4 I found was better than the A6, based on other drivers i spoke with.


20 posted on 06/20/2011 7:04:51 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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