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To: Prokopton

“Sorry, my Country’s engaged in an unconstitutional and statutorily illegal war. My Country is supporting my enemies who were responsible for 9/11. I can’t, and won’t, just “get over it”. The weak, effete, Republican elite are pushing me closer each day to abandoning the corruption that has become the GOP.”

Illegal as in “Unconstitutional”? Not so. Illegal as in “statutorily” as in the Constitutionally suspect “War Powers Act”? Again; not so.

I have said before that there are lots of reasons we Conservatives would like to rein in the arrogant Mr. Obama. Picking the item of raising the Constitutionally suspect “War Powers Act” as one means of doing so may be emotionally satisfying but (1) it has no chance of succeeding and therefor (2) can be nothing but emotionally satisfying as in: “Well we told him” but to no meaningful affect.

If the GOP thought it had a dozen or so Dem supporters in the Senate, it could try to simply cut off the money for any actions in Libya; but it would not hold against an Obama veto without fully 2/3 in both houses; again not likely. So why are you yelling “effete Republican elite” - they don’t have the votes. Just holding a vote will make you “feel” good, but it will not change the realities.

My point is not that I support the rebels and want them to succeed, and neither do I support Ghadaffi and want him to succeed. I would love it if both sides could fail. But, in the end, one will not fail. We will not “win” either way. We will be left with a Libya that is not “with us” either way.

That is not my wish. That’s just how it is.

You can wish that that was not the case, but wishing it to be so does not change it.

When I say “get over it” I am saying we will have to be prepared to deal with a Libya that will not be our friend and ally, no matter what happens between the rebels and Ghaddafi. That’s not a wish; that’s just the way it is.

Yelling “effete Republican elite” over a measure that the GOP would have zero legislative success with is just silly.


25 posted on 06/23/2011 4:04:11 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
Illegal as in “Unconstitutional”? Not so. Illegal as in “statutorily” as in the Constitutionally suspect “War Powers Act”? Again; not so.

Show me someplace in the Constitution that gives the power to the President to attack another country without congressional approval.

Show me someplace in the War Powers Act that gives the power to the President to attack another country that has not attacked us.

Obama's actions are both unconstitutional and in violation of the War Powers Act. Your merely stating "not so" does not change reality.

The Republicans control the House and a simple majority can impeach the President. They do have the votes if they want to actually wield power instead of the continual caving by Crybaby Boehner and the weak, effete, Republican elite.

If they don't want to stand on principle because the Senate might not go along with them, they need to get out of the way and let someone with a little fortitude lead.

26 posted on 06/23/2011 9:36:06 PM PDT by Prokopton
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