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‘This Was About Sex,’ Not Money (NM-Ex UNM Pres. jailed in sex ring)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | June 24, 2011 | James Monteleone and Jeff Proctor

Posted on 06/24/2011 8:04:19 AM PDT by CedarDave

It wasn’t about the money for a pair of aging academics, police say, so much as it was about creating a place on the Internet for men and women to meet for sexual encounters without the prying eyes of law enforcement.

Call it a cyber version of “The Dating Game” in which the host doesn’t get paid.

Except the men were johns, the women were prostitutes, and the whole operation was a complex, online network of illegal activity.

The two aging academics were a pair of longtime university professors who, according to law enforcement, were online pimps operating and moderating an organization called “Southwest Companions” that arranged sex with prostitutes ranging in price from $200 to $10,000.

One of them was F. Chris Garcia, a 71-year-old former University of New Mexico president revered on campus and celebrated as one of its best-liked professors, administrators and researchers.

As a member of the elite “Hunt Club,” Garcia – known as BurquePops – recruited at least 20 women who were in New Mexico or willing to come to the state to join the ring, police said.

They say he also served as a moderator of the organization, responsible for quality control and shielding the site from law enforcement.

His boss, according to police, was David C. Flory, a 68-year-old physics professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey, who was arrested in Albuquerque earlier this week.

For Flory, Garcia and others who worked with the site, “this was about sex,” said Lt. William Roseman said.

“They are needing a site or a place where they can go to do this where they are safe,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: chrisgarcia; davidcflory; davidflory; fairleighdickinson; fchrisgarcia; newjersey; newmexico; prostitution; sex; univofnewmexico
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To: CedarDave
These are reasonable points, and I will consider them.

To clarify: I didn't mean to "equate" prostitution and abortion, I simply meant to compare them in terms of whether legalization serves to achieve sufficient good ends. Prostitution is a socially corrosive force (like fornication and adultery, sodomy, the telling of falsehoods that don't reach the level of legal fraud, and --- sigh --- so many other things) --- but I am ~not~ of the opinion that we are morally obliged to legally suppress all "socially corrosive" forces. It depends on evidence that the legalization would achieve more good than the legal suppression does.

I continue in my search for evidence, pro or con. Thank you for your arguments.

21 posted on 06/24/2011 11:06:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Credulity is belief with slight evidence, with no evidence, or against evidence. ")
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To: Venturer
Things are (as we both know) plenty rotten today. I remain unpersuaded that legalization of protitution would make things less rotten. But I am open to evidence.

It's possible that more agreesssive enforcement of the existing laws would make some good impact. Or maybe not.

But one cannot reasonably infer that a person who refrains from supporting legalization, therefore is satisfied with the status quo.

22 posted on 06/24/2011 11:12:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Credulity is belief with slight evidence, with no evidence, or against evidence. ")
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To: CedarDave

Yeah, but they have tenure.


23 posted on 06/24/2011 11:30:08 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Venturer; CedarDave

I am psychologically driven to Libertarian ideals myself, but know this will never fly with the Conservative movement.

Sex has always been linked with politics, for a very simple reason. Political ideology is an outgrowth of a simple Darwinian strategy, encompasing behavior and reproduction. In nature, every species is composed of “r selected” and “K selected” psychologies.

When increased mortality, such as massive predation, renders a sepcies almost extinct, Those who compete with each other or wait to mate, will fail to breed before they die. Those who do reproduce will have done so by adopting a strategy of avoiding all risk and competition, exhibitng extreme individual selfishness, and simply mating with anyone, at any time, as quickly and as often as possible. This is an “r selected” population.

The opposite is a population which is absent mortality, growing fast, and running out of resources. Under these conditions, the strong take resources from the weak to survive, so one must adopt a Darwinian strategy designed to make oneself, and one’s offspring strong. To cope, individuals compete everywhere, and they carefully choose the best mate possible, and then hang on to them mongamously. They embrace competition, and are tolerant of risk, as they have to be. They are comfortable in an environment where everyone is free to do their own thing, and they welcome the competiton which ensues. And they will seek a competition for mates through the enforcement of monogamy, to prevent cheating through cuckolding.

These are the origins of political ideologies, and it is why Conservatism values freedom and competition, but still wants an atmosphere of monogamy, and dislikes promiscuity. Individuals may vary, but these cultural forces are what shape the movements.

I tend Libertarian as well, but given how Liberalism is destroying the country, prostitution is a battle I will gladly sacrifice, to unite the Conservative movement, and bring Liberalism to it’s knees.

If we fail to get Liberalism under control, we will have a nasty Darwinian period ahead of us, as nature does by force what we should have done ourselves politically.


24 posted on 06/24/2011 11:53:20 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (www.anonymousconservative.com - see the evolutionary origin of Liberalism and its purpose in nature)
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To: Mr. K

FEC website?


25 posted on 06/26/2011 6:58:10 AM PDT by joelt
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To: CedarDave

When this first broke and I saw Garcia’s picture (he was befor my time) - I thought ‘that guy would definitely have to pay for it’.


26 posted on 06/26/2011 7:13:55 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: CedarDave

When this first broke and I saw Garcia’s picture for the first time (he was before my time) - I thought ‘that guy would definitely have to pay for it’.


27 posted on 06/26/2011 7:18:22 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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