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To: DoughtyOne
Are you law enforcement?

Now you are arguing for road blocks? Have you ever read the fourth amendment?

You have a patronizing tone. You liken me to a thirteen year old simpleton. I am always fascinated that when I assert liberty and freedom that desire is always demeaned$ this is FreeRepublic.

I love freedom. You do not. You make my point that as a “conservative” you advocate for more and more laws.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are incompatible with road blocks. I do not want to live in your world. Liberty is precious and rare. You don't want it. You never answered my 2nd amendment question either. Do you support permits for carrying firearms? I can't wait to see your reasons to ignore the second as you have supported road blocks.

Are you law enforcement? Have you drunk the kool aide?

52 posted on 06/25/2011 5:33:47 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane
Are you law enforcement?  No

Now you are arguing for road blocks? No

Have you ever read the fourth amendment? Yes

When I deal with people who think the fourth amendment and Constitution guarantee them that they should never run into a road-block, they frequently state something to the effect that they should be able to do anything they want, as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else. Ah, there’s the catch.

Okay, you're going on the record as having never seen the term "road-block" used as an expression meaning you can't do something you want to.

You have a patronizing tone.  Not really.  I'm just stating that you're using a thirteen year old's logic.  "Waaaaaa, what do you mean I can't drive the car?  That's not fair!"

You liken me to a thirteen year old simpleton.  Yep, you caught that.  Now, do you have any clue why?

I am always fascinated that when I assert liberty and freedom that desire is always demeaned$ this is FreeRepublic.  Look, we all want liberty and freedom.  Most adults recognize that it is reasonable to set up some societal ground rules that deliniate what you can/can't do, so that someone else doesn't have to confront you to explain how you are infringing on their rights.  What you lose sight of, is that other people have the same rights you do.  If you don't keep yourself in check, you can actually deny them their Constitutional rights.  That's what most laws are all about.  Most adults understand that.  You do not.

I love freedom.  Yes, and ultimately only for you.  If a law clearly deliniates what you can or can't do so that others have rights too, you get all pasty on us and start whimpering.

You do not.  Nice try.  I actually enjoy rights, and recognize that others have them too.  I'm happy about that.  And yes, I don't mind having my rights clearly defined so that others can enjoy their Constitutional rights too.

You make my point that as a “conservative” you advocate for more and more laws.  As a Conservative I realize that it is my duty to first and foremost conduct myself as an adult, to keep myself in check.  If I cannot control myself, I am unfit to try to control anything else.  Adults understand the need for some ground-rules.  Every game has them.  So does life.  If we don't have societal and civic rules, the rules of nature will take over.  If you think societal and civic rules are bad, you cannot fathom what natural rules full tilt would be like.

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are incompatible with road blocks.  Good grief, we're back to that again.

I do not want to live in your world.  Obviously.  Once again we're back to the 13 year old mentality.  Life is so unfair to me.

Liberty is precious and rare. You don't want it.  There is no such thing as unbridled liberty.  You're like a pre-teen wanting to be an adult so you can do anything you want, no adults to tell you what you can and can't do, no rules to live by, free to do anything you like.  Then you become and adult and you realize there are more restrictive rules than the ones you had to live by as a child.

You have to work to support yourself.
You have to pay your bills or lose stuff.
You have to remain faithful to your spouse.
You have responsibilities to your family, your friends, your work-place, your lenders, your community, your republic...

You never answered my 2nd amendment question either. Do you support permits for carrying firearms?  No, I don't.  It's not a simple issue though.  If I can carry, so can gang members.  And if you think that you and I carrying weapons is going to eliminate gangs, I think you're going pie in the sky on me again.  A drive by shooting takes place.  Ten people come out of their homes with weapons and open fire on the fleeing vehicle with gang members in it.  Do more people die by gang violence or by good samaritans?

Watch American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance, America's Got Talent, paying attention to the selection process.  Then come back and tell me you feel comfortable with every person in those lines carrying a loaded weapon.

I can't wait to see your reasons to ignore the second as you have supported road blocks.  Can't wait?  Well, I guess you'll have to flop on the floor kicking and screaming then.

Are you law enforcement?  No

Have you drunk the kool aide?  No.  I grew up.



53 posted on 06/25/2011 9:49:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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