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Rick Perry: A Texan’s ‘exceptionalism’
Washington Post ^ | June 24, 2011 | George Will

Posted on 06/25/2011 12:11:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: txrangerette

His going to prep school in Connecticut, and graduating from Yale and Harvard most definitely worked against him in ‘76 or ‘78 when he ran for office out in West Texas. Kent Hance nailed him with it time and time again while they were campaigning against each other. Since then he’s forgiven Hance, and Hance even switched from the Democrats to the GOP and became friends with him. Bush has done a good job of changing his image since the ‘70s, no denying that, but I know plenty of people who were around in the ‘70s and not impressed with him back then.

101 posted on 06/25/2011 7:55:10 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
trumping Romney’s economic expertise with “Texas exceptionalism”:.....

Please note: "Texas exceptionalism" NOT Perry exceptionalism.
102 posted on 06/25/2011 7:57:23 PM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: txrangerette
I bet you have repeated the fiction that he was East Coast so many times, you now think it’s proven history.

I have to admit though, he does feel like an Easterner to me. He was buddies with Teddy Kennedy on a couple of things, he gave us the biggest and most intrusive expansion of government since LBJ with his DHS/TSA crap, his attempt at getting his Information Awareness Office which is still around in pieces was incredibly unpatriotic, and he supported the tools the liberals will use to destroy this country such as the DHS/TSA, No Child Left Behind, and the PATRIOT Act.

Ironic that Texans are fighting the TSA in light of it being created under Bush's tenure.
103 posted on 06/25/2011 7:59:52 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: okie01

Thanks...I was trying to compress too much information into my post. LOL

Right outfit, wrong school.

104 posted on 06/25/2011 8:10:13 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: deport
We don't need to put Perry in Washington; we need to retire him.

I also support transportation improvements. In fact, I am, at present, engaged in mapping out a least-disruptive ROW for an interstate through a region filled with National Register-importance archaeological sites.

My main objection to the TTC was that it was never a transportation design, but was a blatant land-grab concept that put every conceivable form of incompatible transport services -- plus non-transport services (utilities) inside a fenced ROW to maximize the amount of land acquired.

Just the cost of overpasses to cross the ROW would have exceeded he cost of a normal Interstate. One question the TXDoT PR pukes could never answer in public meetings was. "Where else in Texas do you build overpasses to drive over pipelines and underpasses to pass under power lines?" (That is exactly what every crossover on the TTC would have done...)

Perry's dumb@$$3$ at TXDoT would have been better off starting off with simple roads and sneaking in other features wherever they could get away with it. Instead, they showed their whole, greedy hand to start with, and the people of Texas shouted, "Not only NO, but HELL, NO!!" And, even then, dumb@$$ Perry wouldn't give it up.

We certainly don't need that arrogance in the White Hut!

105 posted on 06/25/2011 8:16:23 PM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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To: af_vet_rr

W is Texan through and through.

As is Rick Perry.

There is no need to come up with theories such as “he was raised on the East Coast or his father is NWO” to try explaining Texans varied views on illegal immigration. The state carries within it the seeds of all of the varied views, for the state is so diverse.

I know an Hispanic of the old school who lived in the Midwest for years but was born and raised in Texas. Now back in Texas, he says every illegal should be sent packing. His own ancestors have been in Texas as far back as he knows anything about them, but long, long years ago the border was passed over back and forth and back and forth, without laws to attempt regulation. Suffice it to say in his mind this Hispanic is an American, period. He does not want those here who now come over, flouting our laws, and swarming into our systems and overloading them.

W has expressed his sympathy for the struggling poor of Mexico who come here to work in order to put food on their children’s table. He has seen and met and spoken with people like this and he has too big of a bleeding heart for his own, and this nation’s, good.

Other people claim his business buddies run the whole show and that’s all he cares about...their views who themselves use illegal workers. I do not believe that is his reason. But that is merely my opinion.

Point is, we have it all. We have militants who are trying to take over Texas and America by immigrant invasion. We have old school Hispanics that are angry at these invaders and want them rounded up and deported. We have conservative evangelicals who demand border enforcement and we have liberal evangelicals and some Catholics who claim it is unChristian to turn these people back or even detain them, who house them in churches. We have criminal gangs linked to Mexico. You name it, we have it.

For Rick Perry or W, no need to look beyond Texas itself to find the seeds of whatever is their particular view.

Average Texans are very fed up with the invasion and the violence, and with the hypocrisy of Mexico in encouraging these illegals to come here while having the most severe punishment for anyone entering Mexico illegally.

106 posted on 06/25/2011 8:41:03 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: af_vet_rr

I didn’t say people were impressed with him. I said they knew him in college and high school and remember him from his days at those eastern schools.

He was not like the students from the east coast...he was Texan. He stood out as different. I misspoke in saying he wore boots and bomber jacket in Yale MBA classes...that was Harvard MBA classes when he wore boots and bombers. Yale was undergrad only.

Everyone evolves over the years. He only became more entrenched in his Texas persona. W does not hold grudges and it is irrelevant that he and Kent Hance are friendly. It was a lie then that W was East Coast and it is a lie now. Is it a lie that has wide acceptance among people who swallowed the lie? Yes, you give evidence of that yourself.

It is incorrect to say that George W Bush was raised primarily on the East Coast. He was a baby when moved to Odessa, and grew up in Midland. As soon as he finished his secondary and university schools back East (because that was family tradition) he returned to Texas and lived his entire life here. Houston is in Texas. Dallas is in Texas. Midland and Odessa are in Texas. Crawford is in Texas.

Joining the Texas Guard, running for a congressional seat from West Texas, running a West Texas based oil company, owning and managing the Texas Rangers, running for TX governor and serving there, buying a ranch in Texas, buying a house in Texas, having your Presidential Library in Texas, makes you a Texan.

It is weird to be having to make these obvious points, but so be it.

107 posted on 06/25/2011 8:58:55 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: trumandogz
And Rick ran Gore’s 1988 presidential campaign in Texas.

I doubt Sarah worked for Gore.

Hell, I don't think much of anything has worked for Gore, from the 2000 election to Global Warming to his marriage to his second Chakra.


108 posted on 06/25/2011 9:02:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: shield
Perry created an environment for this to happen

No, Obaaama and the Dems in Sacramento did.


109 posted on 06/25/2011 9:05:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jospehm20
I remember thinking on more than one of the times when I was stuck in a traffic jam on 35 that it would be nice to have a main north-south road in Texas that was not closed for hours every time there is a big accident on it.

You should try I-17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff sometime; and they can't add more lanes because the highway is snaking through the mountains (Flagstaff is at about 7000 feet and the ground rises from there to the Grand Canyon at 8000 feet.)


110 posted on 06/25/2011 9:08:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: txrangerette
As far as theories about Perry and his views on international issues and open borders or at least lax borders, well you're always influenced or at least seriously listen to your biggest donors, else they stop being your biggest donors, and in Perry's case, that's home builders. I believe that does shape his views, at least partly, on why he wanted open borders, and why he was lax later on, to the point of those ridiculous webcams.

At the same time he was preaching the virtues of open borders, he and his staff was starting to formulate his plans about the TTC, and he had friends and associates who benefited from that, and not just the Rudy Giulianis and Dan Shelleys that we know about. There was $150 billion worth of work with the TTC over the next 50 years. That was going to tie into Mexico's plans for a large corridor, and I have to ask where the line was drawn between his friends/donors benefiting and his concerns about Texans or any kind of compassionate views he claimed to have had about poor people along the border.

I'm not saying that Perry isn't compassionate - when he gave the speech about his shared dreams of open borders with Mexico, he was incredibly compassionate. The parts about getting healthcare to poor people on both sides of the border, increasing the education and education options available, etc., all of that tugs at the heartstrings. That's all great, and it sucks people into his sphere. There are even a few FReepers that bought into that speech and support his having signed the Texas DREAM Act. Some people even held up his views on helping poor people along both sides of the border, especially with healthcare, as a sign of what a good Christian he is.

But I have to weigh that against who his donors and friends are and whether that also influences his actions, and I have to weigh that in light of 9/11, and that he waited until just the past few years to get really strict on the border (the webcams were a charade), especially as he was getting attacked by his Republican opponents in the 2010 race, and trying to cozy up to the Tea Party.

At the same time, he made it very clear that he wouldn't sign off on Arizona-style illegal immigration legislation, and that set off a lot of warning bells for folks.

Too many times his friends and donors benefit from the actions and influence of his office. Just this week a Perry donor received a few million in taxpayer dollars for a shady company that filed a false application for that money. On that application, there were people falsely listed as directors that had ties to Perry's staff either as a consultant or as a member of a related council.

Here we are in June of 2011, and we are still seeing the same kinds of Perry shenanigans that we've come to expect from him.
111 posted on 06/25/2011 9:40:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jospehm20
The TTC was not a big deal to me either,

If you own property in Texas, it should have scared the hell out of you that the government wanted to take 100s of thousands of acres and turn control of it over to a European corporation, all the while Perry friends and associates were benefiting financially. I don't see how any Conservative in Texas could not be upset by the TTC crap. If Obama tried that, people would be marching in the streets.
112 posted on 06/25/2011 9:42:52 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: xjcsa; smoothsailing

In fact, the same Executive Order instructed the Department of Health Services to make it easier for all parents to opt out.

113 posted on 06/25/2011 9:50:48 PM PDT by hocndoc ( (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: grey_whiskers

I-35 has a 250 mile stretch which has 3 of the 15 largest population cities in the USA on it and is two lanes a side in many places. It can be a real pain at times, especially if somebody has a wreck on a UT football Saturday.

114 posted on 06/25/2011 9:55:17 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Elendur

Every single pap smear that we do only looks for changes due to HPV. 99.7% of all cervical cancer is caused by HPV.

That site you reference is not reliable. With the millions of girls involved, a given number of events will happen within 30 days of any point in time.

No deaths were confirmed to be due to the vaccine. In fact, the CDC, JAMA, and the very conservative (Bush-appointed and media vilified for those conservative views) FDA panel that reviewed the VAERS in 2008 all confirm that there’s no causal relationship, only temporal.

With 33 million doses, there are bound to be deaths that coincide with the timing of the vaccine use. The teen death rate from all causes is 62 per 100,000 across the US. Most of those are boys, but still: In 10 million girls, 30 deaths are not outside the rate for the age group.

More likely the girls in question were at higher risk due to the population presenting to clinics giving the vaccine: those who present with worries about STD’s, the newly sexually active and those entering college. They were given new scripts for birth control pills and other vaccines and meds.

Also remember the silicon, SSRI, and the general vaccine scares that have been blown out of proportion through the years and later proven to be untrue.

115 posted on 06/25/2011 10:03:34 PM PDT by hocndoc ( (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

It would appear that the ability to regulate interstate commerce gives the feds plenty of authority to create and operate the TSA.

TSA is merely a means of implementing that clearly granted power.

116 posted on 06/25/2011 10:13:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: trumandogz

One Leader recognizes another.

117 posted on 06/25/2011 10:14:17 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: RC51

In the first place I doubt that any of that occurred. I’m saying that the state of Texas has no power to determine rules or operating procedures for a federal agency. If said agencies are abusing its powers there are legitimate means of stopping them.

118 posted on 06/25/2011 10:19:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: PastorBooks

Read the 4th part of the EO concerning Gardisil (which had already been placed on the Federal Vaccines for Children list, so it was free for all Medicaid recipients). Parents’ Rights.The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.”

At the time, the Legislature had given all power to name mandatory vaccines to the Department of State Health Services, which is run under the Executive Branch of Texas gov’t. In order to opt out, parents were required to go to Austin every year, to get an official form with a “seal,” to request the opt out form, get the form and get it filled out and then send it back to Austin. This EO changed that.

119 posted on 06/25/2011 10:24:54 PM PDT by hocndoc ( (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: Texas Fossil

At a minimum the feds have the authority to regulate interstate commerce which is all that is necessary to create the TSA. With more thought there are probably any number of sources I could cite for its powers.

“To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.” Article I, Section 8, paragraph 3. US Constitution

120 posted on 06/25/2011 10:25:51 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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