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SUPREMES STRIKE DOWN VIDEO GAME LAW
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Posted on 06/27/2011 7:44:41 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lawsuit; ruling; scotus; videogames
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To: Hojczyk

So the immediate question that comes to mind - how is this different, in principle, from not allowing under 18’s to rent hard core porn?


61 posted on 06/27/2011 8:27:22 AM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: TheBigIf

Yeh, but it’s ok to stop them from praying. It makes no sense to me.


62 posted on 06/27/2011 8:28:34 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: RJS1950

The majority of voters as it has always been.

And your argument about laws changing with the times is exactly right. That is freedom. You are free to change the laws and to vote for new representatives but now under the dictatorial vision defended by some FReepers (including yourself) in this thread we can never change the law of the land without a Constitutional Amendment and we all lose our right to representation on public decency in our states.


63 posted on 06/27/2011 8:30:07 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Shadowfax

Shadowfax: “Breyer and THOMAS wrote dissenting opinions! To have Scalia and Thomas on opposite sides is pretty amazing....”

Thomas is my favorite because he follows the US Constitution and disregards precedent that doesn’t comply with the plain meaning of it. I haven’t read his decision, but I’m betting he’s going to say the US Constitution does not protect the rights of minors to buy things a majority of voters have decided to restrict. He’s a big federalist, too. For example, he supported the right of states to pass medical marijuana laws.

The concept of the rights of minors is a relatively recent creation. The left has been pushing that meme for many years, because they want to tear down the rights of parents. I think they see parents as oppressive tyrants. The left are rebels without a clue, raging against any form of authority. Unfortunately, many FReepers have apparently fallen for the left’s rhetoric.


64 posted on 06/27/2011 8:30:49 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: CitizenUSA

He dissented because he said the that Constitution does not allow children to buy something that their parents don’t want them to own. He’s right!!!


65 posted on 06/27/2011 8:33:46 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: TheBigIf
I have a right to representation on laws to promote decency within my community

EXACTLY!!

Those who attack that right (under color of "personal freedom" or "individual rights") are fighting against that spirit of self-government which lay at the heart of the American Revolution.
66 posted on 06/27/2011 8:34:55 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: fuzzylogic

“So the immediate question that comes to mind - how is this different, in principle, from not allowing under 18’s to rent hard core porn?”

Scalia answered that question in his opinion. Essentially, we’ve always restricted minors’ rights to access pornography, so that’s ok. But we’ve never had an issue with minors accessing violent content — for example, the original Grimm’s fairy tales.


67 posted on 06/27/2011 8:37:07 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: TheBigIf

Yup. If a child has the free speech rights to own violent video games, I don’t see why he or she wouldn’t have the right to own other obscene materials.


68 posted on 06/27/2011 8:37:24 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Hojczyk

Does this mean my grand kids won’t be sending me their used games any longer? I love their used MOH and CODs.


69 posted on 06/27/2011 8:38:04 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: apillar

If it is a violation on minor’s rights to restrict the sale of video games to kids, how could the retailer now do so? Couldn’t the store owner be sued for doing go?


70 posted on 06/27/2011 8:38:41 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: I Shall Endure

Interesting - especially as porn is allowed under “free speech”, which is the basis for this ruling.


71 posted on 06/27/2011 8:40:50 AM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: Shadowfax

I figured as much (Thomas dissenting because parents have a right to set community standards for their children).

This is one of the areas where libertarians go too far. This isn’t about restricting the rights of adults to view whatever materials they want. It’s about the right of a majority of voters to pass laws regulating what minors can and cannot do.

They always say the parents are responsible, but they want to take away the power of parents to control their children. Anyone who has ever raised a child knows it’s absolutely impossible to monitor or train children for every possible circumstance. Children are expected to navigate our perverse culture unaffected, and if the children crash on the many hazards along the way—blame the parents! For example, libraries bear ZERO responsibility if a child goes in and surfs porn on the library computers. Yeah, parents are at fault, and society has absolutely no obligation to help them protect their children (even if a clear majority of the parents want to join together to help protect the children!).

Libertarians cheer this for some reason unbeknownst to me.


72 posted on 06/27/2011 8:47:21 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: Shadowfax

What about beer and cigs?


73 posted on 06/27/2011 8:47:21 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (I like it that FR still spell checks "obama")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly. My husband works for one of the largest video game retailers in the country and this is their corporate policy. And it’s a one violation and you’re fired policy. The company wants to self police to keep government out of its life. So it’s not like kids everywhere are going to suddenly buy violent video games unemcumbered.


74 posted on 06/27/2011 8:52:15 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: I Shall Endure

Scalia’s response to this is telling as to his using his own personal judgment and opinions and not the Constitution.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that you only have a right to representation if you have had it for the past 100 years. Or if a judge thinks that your use of that right is reasonable in relation to history.

I am becoming highly disappointed in this new Court. They are leading us further towards a dictatorship whereas you are told you have no right to representation on issue after issue.


75 posted on 06/27/2011 8:53:42 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Shadowfax

That’s not what it means at all. It was a ruling against a very specific, flawed law.


76 posted on 06/27/2011 8:58:07 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: CJ Wolf

“What about beer and cigs?”

Do you have the right to buy them? Then maybe your kids do too....


77 posted on 06/27/2011 8:59:42 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: CJ Wolf

“What about beer and cigs?”

Do you have the right to buy them? Then maybe your kids do too....


78 posted on 06/27/2011 8:59:42 AM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: Scutter

And what was the flaw?


79 posted on 06/27/2011 9:00:41 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Hojczyk

Good Im a gamer.


80 posted on 06/27/2011 9:00:44 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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