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Will GOP Cave (Are user fees taxes)
June 28, 2011 | Hojczyk

Posted on 06/28/2011 2:01:33 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Neil Cavuto today..looks like user fees are in..billions of dollars..what ever fees there are... raise as many as possible..Air Lines...Food Inspection ect..

Can they fool us with user fees???? Time to e-mail


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fee; gop; lyingrinos; rinos4fees; rinos4taxes; rinosvsamerica; tax; taxes

1 posted on 06/28/2011 2:01:36 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Postage is a "user fee". Obama influenced the Postal Rate Commission to turn down a USPS proposal to change postage rates.

So whatever the Democrats are saying about user fees I'd discount it as just a feint for a propaganda ploy ~ they'll come out and tell us that the Republicans want to raise "fees" on some sort of innocuous activity or product involving ordinary folks, or the poor "Yet they refuse to raise taxes on the rich who are eating out your guts".

Just ignore the Democrats on this. Don't respond. No fees. No taxes. Just cuts! And THEY get to pick the cuts. (Bwahahahahaha)

2 posted on 06/28/2011 2:06:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hojczyk

As discussed in the FReeper Sunday
Morning Talk Show Thread 19 June 2011,
the RINOs leaked that they are calling
NEW TAXES by the euphemism, “FEES”.

They learned that from Milt Romney, their leader.

America is in peril from the RINOs.


3 posted on 06/28/2011 2:07:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: Hojczyk

How about getting rid of the federal gas tax...That alone would raise GDP by 1 point...


4 posted on 06/28/2011 2:07:45 PM PDT by Fred (The only job Obama is trying to save is his own)
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To: Hojczyk
Do you remember this fiasco?
5 posted on 06/28/2011 2:08:38 PM PDT by mirkwood (Palin 12)
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To: Hojczyk

“fees”- it worked for Pawlenty in his 2nd term in MN.

(he fooled some of the people)


6 posted on 06/28/2011 2:08:50 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Hojczyk
You silly peasants, wasting your time considering the appropriate use of language.

Now get back to work so you can pay your gubment revenue enhancements.

7 posted on 06/28/2011 2:10:04 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (No one is more against progress than a progressive.)
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To: Hojczyk

Are User fees taxes?

YES.


8 posted on 06/28/2011 2:10:22 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Hojczyk
More info please. like user fees on what?

Many user fees already exist or did exist.

There was the National Park Access fee several years ago. Did not mind that, it kept the riff-raff out. Went an bought a yer long, any park access card right away and renewed it until they did away with the program.

The motor fuel tax is a user fee of sorts. The more you use the more you pay. Of course every time they raise CAF their revenue goes down. Duh.

If the fee is applied to the actual user, i.e.: you or me, like the park fee, than it can make sense. If it is applied to a business, than it will be passed along to us in the price. Everyone on FR should know by now that businesses do not pay taxes, they pass them on to the consumer.

9 posted on 06/28/2011 2:11:32 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Hojczyk
WEAKEST LINK
10 posted on 06/28/2011 2:13:14 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Hojczyk

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck is it really a duck or is it a user fee?


11 posted on 06/28/2011 2:16:07 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mirkwood

Didn’t that $38 billion turn out to be more like $250 MILLION??


12 posted on 06/28/2011 2:20:29 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreses the Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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To: Raycpa

Doesn’t matter HOW they take money out of the economy, the damage to the economy is the same. Period.


13 posted on 06/28/2011 2:22:20 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreses the Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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To: mirkwood

great chart! thanks!

...as for compromise, i’m a single Dad.
money is tight.
but if i had to choose between congress making a
10% overall budget cut, without raising taxes,
or a
20% overall budget cut, and raising my taxes 10%,

i will take the later!!! for the sake of my children!!!


14 posted on 06/28/2011 2:22:29 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur

The trouble with option B is that they end up raising the taxes and the spending both, while the cuts never materialize.


15 posted on 06/28/2011 2:26:51 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Hojczyk

Don’t Republicans ALWAYS cave!!!! And they wonder why they can’t hold onto power!


16 posted on 06/28/2011 2:31:05 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Hojczyk

Ok....I’m charging a user fee of 00.35 for each person who looks at this post. It’s for the children.


17 posted on 06/28/2011 2:37:09 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Hojczyk
When the government takes in 2500+ billions of dollars, talking about giving them more is plain stupid no matter what you call their method of extortion. No new income for the Federal Government, period. In addition, each year for the next ten years the Federal Government must reduce expenditures by 10% in constant 1975 dollars.

JMHO

Regards

18 posted on 06/28/2011 2:41:26 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: Hojczyk

there is a charge for walking to the top of the Statue of Liberty,
to drive into many National parks,
to use particular services of the Library of Congress

Potential new fees?

toll roads on interstate highways
medical device use fees http://www.medcitynews.com/2011/06/medical-device-industry-to-fda-no-user-fee-hikes-until-goals-met/
trash removal fees (trash is interstate commerce)
recycling fees
recreation user fees
telecom fees
value capture fees on property
faa user fees
internet usage fee for DHS security monitoring
...


19 posted on 06/28/2011 2:46:22 PM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Hojczyk

Will the GOP cave?

Does Pinochio have a wooden penis?

Do Bears defecate in the woods?

Is Rosie O’Moose a Dyke?


20 posted on 06/28/2011 2:49:21 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Hojczyk
If the GOP tries to sell fees as not being the equivalent of taxes, then it is truly time for a new party to replace the GOP. Right now, it appears that we have a gutless and clueless bunch representing our side in Washington.
21 posted on 06/28/2011 2:51:00 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Government doesn't create jobs, it only creates expenses.)
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To: Hojczyk
The left-wing sites are freaking out that Obama is going to "cave" on SS and Medicare just like people here are watching the GOP like hawks on raising fees/taxes.

I'm glad I'm not in that room negotiating.

22 posted on 06/28/2011 3:05:04 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Hojczyk

Yes, soon and yes.


23 posted on 06/28/2011 3:06:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: Elendur

You are a good father.


24 posted on 06/28/2011 3:07:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: Hojczyk

How about user fees on welfare, food stamps, ethanol subsidies, food price supports. I got more.


25 posted on 06/28/2011 3:10:06 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Thom Pain
I think it was around 320 million... it was just a fraction of what we were promised and actually told on the final bill. Friggin’ liars all.

LLS

26 posted on 06/28/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Venturer

Does the Pope wear a funny hat?


27 posted on 06/28/2011 4:14:08 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: EBH
value capture fees on property

What, pray tell, is that?

28 posted on 06/28/2011 5:09:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: maine-iac7

That...my FRiend is how they are phrasing adding ‘fees’ to your property tax...


29 posted on 06/29/2011 7:44:14 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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