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John Lennon was a closet Republican: Liked Ronald Reagan
Toronto Sun ^ | June 28, 2011 | staff

Posted on 06/29/2011 8:24:34 AM PDT by rface

John Lennon was a closet Republican, who felt a little embarrassed by his former radicalism, at the time of his death - according to the tragic Beatles star's last personal assistant.

Fred Seaman worked alongside the music legend from 1979 to Lennon's death at the end of 1980 and he reveals the star was a Ronald Reagan fan who enjoyed arguing with left-wing radicals who reminded him of his former self.

In new documentary Beatles Stories, Seaman tells filmmaker Seth Swirsky Lennon wasn't the peace-loving militant fans thought he was while he was his assistant.

He says, "John, basically, made it very clear that if he were an American he would vote for Reagan because he was really sour on (Democrat) Jimmy Carter.

"He'd met Reagan back, I think, in the 70s at some sporting event... Reagan was the guy who had ordered the National Guard, I believe, to go after the young (peace) demonstrators in Berkeley ........

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[[[ So John Lennon was shot and killed.....wonder if some lefty loon knew about this Reagan thingy .... ]]

(Excerpt) Read more at torontosun.com ...


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KEYWORDS: beatles; beatlesstories; documentary; epiphany; johnlennon; music; reagan
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1 posted on 06/29/2011 8:24:39 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

Interesting... but I wonder if Yoko would substantiate this claim.


2 posted on 06/29/2011 8:31:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: rface

Bwahahahahaha......

Sweeeeeet.......


3 posted on 06/29/2011 8:33:34 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: ScottinVA

I have a hard time believing anything Yoko says.


4 posted on 06/29/2011 8:34:14 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

I find this a little hard to believe.


5 posted on 06/29/2011 8:34:32 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: rface

I have to say that as a huge Beatle fan I find this a little hard to believe. However, it lines up with Churchill’s old maxim. Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains.


6 posted on 06/29/2011 8:35:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rface

Where do they come up with this crap?


7 posted on 06/29/2011 8:35:49 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Wiggins

If you go carryin pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.


8 posted on 06/29/2011 8:36:35 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: rface

I’m throwing the BS flag on this one. There’s an agenda here.

Obama has even claimed to be an admirer of Ronaldus Maximus when it suits him.


9 posted on 06/29/2011 8:37:13 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: rface

(Just praying that he was a Christian.)


10 posted on 06/29/2011 8:37:26 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: rface

He also might have been a Christian, hope so..only God really knows now..


11 posted on 06/29/2011 8:38:10 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: ScottinVA

Last I heard he was proud to be a Marxist.
That stupid stupid stupid song Imagine only confirms it.
Let’s base our analysis on his work.


12 posted on 06/29/2011 8:40:07 AM PDT by Rytas
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To: rface

I still don’t like his music.


13 posted on 06/29/2011 8:41:07 AM PDT by conservonator
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To: rface

You need not be a Republican to have liked Reagan. Remember “Reagan Democrats”? RINOs would not like Reagan


14 posted on 06/29/2011 8:41:25 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Wiggins
I believe it. I remember reading he helped purchase bulletproof vests for NYCP shortly before his death. (I know, ironic). The lyrics on “Double Fantasy” also elude to a new pragmatism in his life...
15 posted on 06/29/2011 8:43:47 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: shalom aleichem
RINOs would not like Reagan

very true words ..... The RNC would have fought tooth and nail to keep Reagan out of the White House......Reagan, the Tea Partier.

16 posted on 06/29/2011 8:44:08 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface

“I have a hard time believing anything Yoko says.”

I have a hard time listening to anything Yoko sings.


17 posted on 06/29/2011 8:47:05 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: JSDude1
“He also might have been a Christian...”

The lyrics to “Beautiful Boy” suggest the same.

18 posted on 06/29/2011 8:48:14 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: rface
Sounds alot like me. I grew up in NYC and only knew liberalism. At 31, moved to New Hampshire, spent many hours in my car, discovered Talk Radio (Jerry Williams and Rush), and realized I was a conservative after all.

The rest is history.

19 posted on 06/29/2011 8:50:10 AM PDT by paul in cape
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To: ScottinVA
The Beatles’ song “Revolution” is actually rather conservative from the standpoint of the social, cultural, and political turmoil in 1968, when the song was written by John Lennon. It's essentially a plea for non-violent change. One of my favorite lyrics is:

“But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow”

Here is what John himself said about the song in a 1980 interview:

“The statement in ‘Revolution’ was mine. The lyrics stand today. It's still my feeling about politics. I want to see the plan. That is what I used to say to Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. Count me out if it is for violence. Don't expect me to be on the barricades unless it is with flowers.”

20 posted on 06/29/2011 8:51:22 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: rface

21 posted on 06/29/2011 8:52:53 AM PDT by RedMDer (Throw the Rats and RINOs out!)
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To: Dansong

Close your eyes,
Have no fear,
The monsters gone,
He’s on the run and your daddy’s here,

Beautiful,
Beautiful, beautiful,
Beautiful Boy,

Before you go to sleep,
Say a little prayer,
Every day in every way,
It’s getting better and better,

Beautiful,
Beautiful, beautiful,
Beautiful Boy,

Out on the ocean sailing away,
I can hardly wait,
To see you to come of age,
But I guess we’ll both,
Just have to be patient,
Yes it’s a long way to go,
But in the meantime,

Before you cross the street,
Take my hand,
Life is just what happens to you,
While your busy making other plans,

Beautiful,
Beautiful, beautiful,
Beautiful Boy,
Darling,
Darling,
Darling Sean.


22 posted on 06/29/2011 8:54:53 AM PDT by SonnyBubba
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To: rface

Heard the same about Bob Dylan. I still prefer the Stones...


23 posted on 06/29/2011 8:57:31 AM PDT by LazloToth (McCain is a closet Democrat)
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To: rface

It’s no surprise to me that Lennon changed his mind on left-wing radicals. He was a smart guy who figured out what a bunch of crap it all was. Too bad that he was corrupted by that nutjob wife of his, though.


24 posted on 06/29/2011 8:58:58 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: rface

From what I remember about John Lennon and from what I’ve read about him since his death he seems to have been a good,kind soul who was embittered by his Mothers death,and this bitterness took the form of left wing idiocy during the 60’s


25 posted on 06/29/2011 9:01:08 AM PDT by Paddyboy
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To: Dansong

I guess it’s possible but I’m still not sold on this article. I think The lyrics of the song “Imagine” reflect more of what kind of philosophy and beliefs Lennon had.


26 posted on 06/29/2011 9:14:22 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: Rytas

“Imagine” that I would never have to hear that stupid song again for the rest of my life. That would be wonderful indeed.


27 posted on 06/29/2011 9:18:02 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: rface

Lennon was turning conservative in more ways than one. He donated to the NYPD for the purchase of protective vests. He lambasted “benefit concerts” as absolute rip offs and promised to never be involved with another one. Plus he saw the big tax bite.


28 posted on 06/29/2011 9:22:33 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Rytas

Imagine was earlier, this claims a later conversion as he settled down with a family life. That can change people. People do change, PJ O’Rourke was an ultra-liberal protesting the Vietnam War at one point.


29 posted on 06/29/2011 9:23:26 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: greatplains

The worst thing about IMAGINE is that it was used to close the film THE KILLING FIELDS while so much of the song perfectly describes Khymer Rouge beliefs (except they still found reasons to kill...no possessions has to be enforced ya know).


30 posted on 06/29/2011 9:25:08 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
"Plus he saw the big tax bite."

I always figured that is why he was living in the USA instead of his home country.

31 posted on 06/29/2011 9:35:25 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: conservonator
I still don’t like his music.
Thank you!
Now let's prepare for the stoning;)
32 posted on 06/29/2011 9:35:52 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: ScottinVA

“Interesting... but I wonder if Yoko would substantiate this claim.”

Only if she thought she could milk a buck out of it. That woman has lived off of the corps of John every day of her life. She is a human maggot.

I’m a huge Beatles fan, but have been somewhat anti-John for a number of years. Mostly due to how he left his first wife and son for that screaming banshee of a woman Yoko. I don’t mind so much that he divorced his first wife, but the way he abandoned his son Julian, was terrible.

This topic about John gives me a little more respect for him, but he is still my least favorite Beatle due to the treatment of his first son.


33 posted on 06/29/2011 9:36:59 AM PDT by RickB444 (Worry about and distrust anyone who fears a lawful person owning a gun.)
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To: Bitsy

Nah - trust me, it’s none the better when stoned


34 posted on 06/29/2011 9:36:59 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: rface

As they say south of the border; “Mierda de Toro”.


35 posted on 06/29/2011 9:37:35 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: Dansong

The lyrics on “Double Fantasy” also elude to a new pragmatism in his life...

I always suspected there was something behing the song “Watching the Wheels”. This could be part of it.


36 posted on 06/29/2011 9:39:19 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Nah - trust me, it’s none the better when stoned

He He! You know, I meant real stoning but, you got a point.


37 posted on 06/29/2011 10:08:51 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: SonnyBubba
The Beatles - Taxman lyrics


Send "Taxman" Ringtone to your Cell


One, two, three, four...
Hrmm!
One, two, (one, two, three, four!)

Let me tell you how it will be;
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don't take it all.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

(if you drive a car, car;) - I’ll tax the street;
(if you try to sit, sit;) - I’ll tax your seat;
(if you get too cold, cold;) - I’ll tax the heat;
(if you take a walk, walk;) - I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

And you're working for no one but me.

Taxman!
38 posted on 06/29/2011 10:09:09 AM PDT by mc5cents (Noli nothis permittere te terere)
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To: rface

Really? does this sound like Reagan?

Imagine lyrics
Songwriters: Lennon, John;

Imagine there’s no heaven, it’s easy if you try
No people below us, above it’s only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there’s no countries, it isn’t hard to do
No need to kill or die for and no religions too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger a brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing for the world

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
Take my hand and join us
And the world will live, will live as one

[| From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/j/john-lennon-lyrics/imagine-lyrics.html |]


39 posted on 06/29/2011 10:10:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: rface

I once read that he used to watch TV evangelists regularly.


40 posted on 06/29/2011 10:50:04 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: mc5cents

George Harrison wrote that song, not John. But it’s a good one.


41 posted on 06/29/2011 11:17:04 AM PDT by LifePath
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To: ScottinVA

Yoko would “substantiate” anything that suited her.


42 posted on 06/29/2011 12:14:11 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: rface

In a perfect world ...


43 posted on 06/29/2011 12:15:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: mc5cents

George Harrison wrote “Taxman.”


44 posted on 06/29/2011 12:18:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Beowulf9

I find it hard to think it was a coincidence that John was shot with Yoko standing next to him and not one bullet. Yoko couldn’t wait to milk the dollars from John’s death.


45 posted on 06/29/2011 12:22:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SonnyBubba

Well done SunnyBubba - thanks!


46 posted on 06/29/2011 12:45:17 PM PDT by Dansong
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To: RickB444

He got back with Julian, and Julian and Sean have a very good relationship.

I don’t think Yoko would ever admit John’s growing conservatism. I’m not sure she’d even admit it to herself.


47 posted on 06/29/2011 5:29:37 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you B@st@rd!)
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To: sickoflibs

People *do* change, you know.


48 posted on 06/29/2011 5:33:55 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you B@st@rd!)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
RE :”People *do* change, you know.

Right, I heard Romney is pro-life too :)

Lennon may well have moved towards the center being a father but he had a long way to go, 'Imagine' is clearly a Marxist Dream (Heaven on Earth) song, something the 1930s American Communists would rally to.

Believe it or not the Beatles (together) are to me still the one of the most talented and artistically brilliant (mainly Lennon/McCartney with George Martin's help) musical artists of all time leaving behind a set of work that no-one has come close to. But Lennon's short solo career was very un-notable.

49 posted on 06/29/2011 7:28:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: rface

On Feb 10, 2011 the LA Times revisited the historical context of Ronald Reagan’s historical speech “A Time for Choosing” .. here... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2011/02/ronald-reagan-and-a-time-for-choosing.html


50 posted on 06/29/2011 8:53:29 PM PDT by Bluesmover (When the people fear the govt, there is tyranny. When the govt fears the people, there is liberty.)
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