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Threats could have chilling effect on climate research, science group says
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Posted on 06/29/2011 9:11:22 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Threats could have chilling effect on climate research, science group says By Andrew Restuccia - 06/29/11 10:39 AM ET

Personal attacks — including legal challenges and even death threats — on climate scientists have created a “hostile environment” that could result in a “chilling effect” on much-needed research, one of the country’s leading scientific organizations said this week.

The board of directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science issued a rare statement Tuesday underscoring that it “vigorously opposes” personal attacks on climate scientists. It's the organization's strongest rebuke of efforts by conservative groups to criticize climate scientists.

“Reports of harassment, death threats, and legal challenges have created a hostile environment that inhibits the free exchange of scientific findings and ideas and makes it difficult for factual information and scientific analyses to reach policymakers and the public,” the statement says. “This both impedes the progress of science and interferes with the application of science to the solution of global problems.”

The statement comes a week after a conservative group sued NASA for records related to the outside advocacy and compensation of Dr. James Hansen, a prominent advocate for reducing the country’s greenhouse gas emissions. The same group, the American Tradition Institute, has also sought documents from the University of Virginia related to Michael Mann, another prominent climate scientist.

“The sharing of research data is vastly different from unreasonable, excessive Freedom of Information Act requests for personal information and voluminous data that are then used to harass and intimidate scientists,” AAAS, which bills itself as the world's largest scientific society, says. “The latter serve only as a distraction and make no constructive contribution to the public discourse.”

More broadly, the AAAS statement comes at a time when Republicans and some Democrats in Congress are working to block Environmental Protection Agency climate regulations, with some lawmakers raising questions about validity of climate science.

AAAS, which publishes the journal “Science,” warns that personal attacks on climate scientists could have a “chilling effect” on scientific research.

“[W]e are concerned that establishing a practice of aggressive inquiry into the professional histories of scientists whose findings may bear on policy in ways that some find unpalatable could well have a chilling effect on the willingness of scientists to conduct research that intersects with policy-relevant scientific questions,” the statement says.

It’s the second time the AAAS board has weighed in on personal attacks on climate scientists, according to the organization’s spokesman. The board issued a statement in May 2010 criticizing Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli’s investigation into Mann’s climate research. But Tuesday’s statement was written in much stronger language.


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Cut off their funding..........
1 posted on 06/29/2011 9:11:26 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

“chilling effect” as in global cooling?


2 posted on 06/29/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Sub-Driver

That “chilling effect” must be why no detectable warming has occurred for 10 years.


3 posted on 06/29/2011 9:16:56 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Sub-Driver
Reports of harassment, death threats ...
These reports are as full of $hit as the reports of Tea Partyers spitting on black congress critters and calling them the "nnnnnnn" word.
4 posted on 06/29/2011 9:18:47 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sub-Driver

With all the junk science that’s been foisted off on us, the preposterous conclusions, the out and out lies, the resulting demands that we go back to the stone age or die... these guys are lucky they haven’t been strung up.

If I were them, I’d crawl back under my rock and consider myself very lucky.


5 posted on 06/29/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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To: Sub-Driver

When I first read the headline, I thought GREAT!, someone in the scientific community is taking a stand in support of academic freedom for those who do research and publish articles that question global warming and that the cause of that warming is the activities of people.

Silly me.


6 posted on 06/29/2011 9:22:28 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Huskrrrr
As you sow so shall you reap. Those that denied or were skeptical of Man Made Global Warming were vilified in D.C. and in the pop media, pay back is hell.
7 posted on 06/29/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder what they call it when Al Gore uses the words “Global Warming Denier”?


8 posted on 06/29/2011 9:22:51 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Sub-Driver
"American Association for the Advancement of Science issued a rare statement Tuesday underscoring that it “vigorously opposes” personal attacks on climate scientists. It's the organization's strongest rebuke of efforts by conservative groups to criticize climate scientists. "

Well, golly-doodle, no one is attacking the "scientists", just the global warming tripe they're trying to foist upon the American people.

I mean a scam artist is a scam artist, and no one likes a scam artist except those who are benefitting directly, or indirectly, from his scam.

Real scientists deal in facts, no consensus....
9 posted on 06/29/2011 9:23:17 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like people are getting fed up with shams and scams....maybe just the net result of fraudulent science fed by liberal politics.


10 posted on 06/29/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Sub-Driver
Gotta love the way that the Death Threats are consistently lumped in with legal challenges and harrassment, as if they're inseparable and all equally prima facie unjustified.

"unreasonable, excessive Freedom of Information Act requests for personal information and voluminous data that are then used to harass and intimidate scientists," You have GOT to be kidding me!

Oh and it "could have a 'chilling effect' on scientific research.". Uh, ya think? I'm pretty sure that's the point of a legitimate legal challenge.

11 posted on 06/29/2011 9:24:24 AM PDT by PENANCE
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To: Sub-Driver
chilling effect

How about just a flat-out total freezing effect? That would be better!
12 posted on 06/29/2011 9:25:12 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


13 posted on 06/29/2011 9:26:21 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: DoughtyOne
Fur Shur the results of publicly financed research should be made available as consistent with national security reuirements might dictate.

Presumably climate data is NOT SECRET STUFF.

On the other hand here's the board of directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science advancing the notion that there can be too much in the way of FOIA requests for such data.

Actually, that data has no FOIA protection and should be made available for public review and use on a continuing basis ~ as it is produced.

The way to put an end to this idea is CUT OFF ALL GOVERNMENT FUNDING and GOVERNMENT TIES to the affected institutions and employees.

If they want to surround themselves with a privacy hedge, let them do it on their own ticket ~ not mine!

BTW, that also means TAKE AWAY THEIR PRIVILEGE TO MAIL AT THE PERIODICALS RATE. They can take that 6 pound paper rock of theirs they mail out at a cross-subsidized rate every month and pay First Class Mail rates!

14 posted on 06/29/2011 9:27:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver
and even death threats

Total fabrication. The threat is to the grants the so-called scientists are addicted to.

15 posted on 06/29/2011 9:27:36 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

There should be a law against making death threats against climate scientists.

Oh wait, there is one.


16 posted on 06/29/2011 9:28:23 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Sub-Driver
The board of directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science issued a rare statement Tuesday underscoring that it “vigorously opposes” personal attacks on climate scientists. It's the organization's strongest rebuke of efforts by conservative groups to criticize climate scientists.

I am surprised to learn that the AAAS is another leftist organization. At first I thought they were, at last, talking about the threats, attacks, and denied funding to genuine climate scientists who have legitimate questions for the "warmers."

Warmers are those who believe that climate change is caused by mankind, when there is no credible scientific evidence that supports such an outlandish claim.

But, instead, the AAAS is supporting "scientists" with a vested interest in man caused global warming.

I would have been impressed with the AAAS if it actually was an objective organization. Instead it is just another bunch of leftist hacks. Shame on them!

17 posted on 06/29/2011 9:32:29 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Sub-Driver
"Personal attacks — including legal challenges and even death threats — on climate scientists have created a “hostile environment” that could result in a “chilling effect” on much-needed research, one of the country’s leading scientific organizations said this week."

Is that a threat?

18 posted on 06/29/2011 9:32:44 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Sub-Driver
the AAAS board...

Investigate them!

19 posted on 06/29/2011 9:34:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: gimme1ibertee
The threats have come from the Global Warming Team now called climate change since the earth has stopped warming the last decade. They make good on their threats by having their enemies fired and funding denied for research that does not support their view.

We have also had the Eco-terrorists that have fire bombed car dealerships, logging companies and anyone they deem anti enviroment.

They have also tried to shut down (often successfully) industrial expansion and exploration for oil and mineral via law suits and phony endangered species suits.

Yes there is intimidation and terror threats and acts of terror happening. It is from the enviromentalists and global warming crowd, not our side.

20 posted on 06/29/2011 9:36:38 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: YHAOS
Is that a threat?

"...including legal challenges..." Sounds like one to me.

21 posted on 06/29/2011 9:37:15 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Sub-Driver
“Reports of harassment, death threats, and legal challenges have created a hostile environment that inhibits the free exchange of scientific findings and ideas and makes it difficult for factual information and scientific analyses to reach policymakers and the public,” the statement says. “This both impedes the progress of science and interferes with the application of science to the solution of global problems.”

Are these reports of death threats verified by anyone? As for harassment, it seems as though ANY challenge to their AGW dogma is seen as such by the adherents to the faith. I haven't heard of any lawsuits, except by people wishing to rein in the overwielding hand of government in their lives that is working on the flawed notion of 'saving the planet'.

The AGW folks see 'climate skeptics' being successful in raising doubts, and they can't have this because it could possibly cut off their funding, on which they depend to survive.

22 posted on 06/29/2011 9:37:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: muawiyah

Presumably climate data is NOT SECRET STUFF.

______________________________________________________

The reality is that you and I paid for the research. I’d like to see the results and how they came to them. Why not put ALL publicly financed research on the web? It would be very cheap and then there would be no need for FOIA requests.

I am so sick of these leftist trying to get into my pocket and control everything I do that I am truly getting VERY angry about all this stuff.

LET”S SEE THE DATA!


23 posted on 06/29/2011 9:41:14 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: olezip
I am surprised to learn that the AAAS is another leftist organization.

I was a member many years ago and read their publication "Science" magazine cover to cover. Somewhere back in the 80's, obvious bias started to creep in and by the early 90's I dropped my membership. Truly a shame.

24 posted on 06/29/2011 9:41:53 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Sub-Driver

Will Michael Mann release his studies at UVA and Penn State?


25 posted on 06/29/2011 9:44:03 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Personal attacks — including legal challenges and even death threats — on climate scientists have created a “hostile environment” that could result in a “chilling effect” on much-needed research, one of the country’s leading scientific organizations said this week.”

Right—BS! Just like those “evil” tea party people “attacking and accosting” Nancy Pewloski and her ilk—when no one could even provide any evidence thereof. Just spew it out and hope someone believes it.


26 posted on 06/29/2011 9:44:06 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: MAexile

Here we see Spc. Jose Ortiz-Fernandez proudly receive the Global Warming Denier medal.
27 posted on 06/29/2011 9:48:56 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Liberty Valance
"could result in a “chilling effect”

Sounds like a threat to me.

28 posted on 06/29/2011 9:49:37 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: oh8eleven

absolutely correct!!!

...and, they ignore all the high-profile people who actually called for “deniers” to be put in prison !

this is a multi-billion dollar scam, and it is rapidly falling apart.
(even the US government admits it is getting colder now, not hotter:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2740366/posts


29 posted on 06/29/2011 9:51:37 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver

If these so called “climate scientists” weren’t a bunch of lying liberal scumbags intent on seizing control of our economies, lifestyles and property they wouldn’t have a problem.
Tough titty said the kitty when the milk ran dry.


30 posted on 06/29/2011 9:53:11 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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attacks — including legal challenges and even death threats — on climate scientists

There are years of continuous climate scientists threats to the population of the world that we will DIE, if we don't do this or that... Sounds like death threats to me in the Billions!

31 posted on 06/29/2011 10:03:27 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Sub-Driver

ping


32 posted on 06/29/2011 10:05:46 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Army Air Corps; Nipfan; carolinablonde; marvlus; DollyCali; markomalley; Bockscar; Thunder90; ...
Thanx for the ping Army Air Corps !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

33 posted on 06/29/2011 10:06:55 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: muawiyah

I like your thoughts and suggestions there. Right on! It is rather frustrating though, not getting to disagree and all. ;^)


34 posted on 06/29/2011 10:12:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Muslim Brotherhood (renames itself) the Liberty and Justice Party. NOT A JOKE.)
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To: Sub-Driver

When you’re caught lying, thieving, and cheating, claim death threats.

The boy who cried “Wolf!” got eaten by one. Spit happens, especially to criminals.


35 posted on 06/29/2011 10:12:52 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Sub-Driver

I call knee-deep straw man bullshit !


36 posted on 06/29/2011 10:14:00 AM PDT by tomkat (Palin/West '12)
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To: Sub-Driver
“The sharing of research data is vastly different from unreasonable, excessive Freedom of Information Act requests for personal information and voluminous data that are then used to harass and intimidate scientists,” AAAS,...

Voluminous data = all the data instead of cherry picked data.

How can they be harassed by their own e-mails unless those e-mails show a concerted pattern of deceit and attempts to shut opposing views down? IOWs their own communications revealed an anti-science practice going on behind the scenes and exposing it is called "harassment."

37 posted on 06/29/2011 10:25:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oooooooo - legal challenges!

Who would ever stoop so low as use that tactic?


38 posted on 06/29/2011 10:56:16 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Sub-Driver

looks like they are aiming for total legal immunity and Secret Service protection?


39 posted on 06/29/2011 11:08:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: facedown

Yes, I use to subscribe to Scientific American,that is before they started promoting AGW. I threw the rest away and won’t ever subscribe to it again. Damn Shame!


40 posted on 06/29/2011 11:09:47 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: Sub-Driver
Michael Mann, another prominent climate scientist.

I wonder how big of an act of fraud Mann would have to commit to lose the "prominent climate scientist" title. It seems his latest 'research' wasn't egregious enough fot The Hill.

41 posted on 06/29/2011 11:13:07 AM PDT by lwd
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To: DManA

:)


42 posted on 06/29/2011 11:16:35 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: Sub-Driver
As long as those bozos continue pumping out agenda driven lies to line their pockets with liberal grant money, then are going to be called on the carpet. Their lies have a direct impact on the quality of life of everyone in the U.S. Their lies become the basis for regulations that have no basis in real science. Let them be chilled into solid ice as long as they persist in pushing the lying agenda.
43 posted on 06/29/2011 11:27:16 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

he problem is the lying media tyhat accepts their press releases, prints them, and never investigates anything the p.r. says.


44 posted on 06/29/2011 12:10:40 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: cpdiii

I agree 100%.


45 posted on 06/29/2011 12:23:34 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just for fun, I did a quick search on their site and checked the names of the Board of Directors and “other members” at OpenSecrets for donations.

Alice Huang, Chair of the AAAS Board - Hilary Clinton (D), 80/20 Pac, Emily’s list

Knowlton, Nancy - Smithsonian - Bill Foster (D), Barack Obama (D)

Inder Verma - Salk Institute - Hillary Clinton (D)

Thomas A Woolsey - Washinton University - DNC Services Corp (D)

Most of the others listed came up with no records found, somewhat of a plus for them I guess.

Also, the Wikipedia entry for the AAAS states:

“In December 2006, the AAAS adopted an official statement on climate change in which they stated, “The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society....The pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now.”

You may correctly surmise that at no time was I surprised doing this little tidbit of research.


46 posted on 06/29/2011 12:35:10 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: Sub-Driver
Mommy-Mommy --- those boys are being mean to me!

LOL. After ass clowns like Jim Hensen call for the imprisonment of people who dare to disagree with them they are now bitching that citizens want to check his taxpayer funded books.

Total hustlers! It's time to end this scam.

47 posted on 06/29/2011 8:07:17 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver

All publicly funded research DATA should be published as it is collected, WITHOUT any need for FOIA requests. There should be as little publicly funded “Science” as possible, as it is a corrupting influence. And, true science is done based upon facts and data, NOT CONSENSUS! Read “Caught Green-Handed” by Lord Monckton, available at http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/climategate.html


48 posted on 06/29/2011 8:18:25 PM PDT by Bluesmover (When the people fear the govt, there is tyranny. When the govt fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The most important thing is, a Hypothesis is either supported by the DATA or it isn’t. When Consensus is used and the DATA is CORRUPTED and MANIPULATED like in the Climategate scandal, we are in BIG BIG TROUBLE! The Scientific method, begun by Sir Francis Bacon hundreds of years ago, it is the objective to try to DISPROVE your own Hypothesis... if it stands up it MIGHT get upgraded to a THEORY ... but even theories are later DISPROVEN. Then, true Progress is made! You NEVER look for SUPPORTING DATA alone! That is NOT Science.


49 posted on 06/29/2011 8:19:32 PM PDT by Bluesmover (When the people fear the govt, there is tyranny. When the govt fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: Sub-Driver

An old liberal trick is to send hate mail to your own group and blame it on conservatives. You’ve seen them at Tea Parties - liberals pretending to be conservatives... You’ve heard them call Rush’s program. I’m sure liberals send these so called scientists fake letters too... It’s a liberal MO


50 posted on 06/29/2011 8:22:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black flash mobs: street level reflections of elite liberal hate for middle class America..)
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