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BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 3, 2011 | Michale Hilzik

Posted on 07/03/2011 6:38:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Time to move, Miguel.

Go to where the jobs are like everybody else is doing (hint: It ain’t in California)


61 posted on 07/03/2011 8:11:33 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
On Monday, the Fourth of July, Americans will gather to celebrate the overthrow of tyranny. But the ease with which we allow corporate employers to impoverish their loyal workers should make us pause under the fireworks and think about how over the ensuing 235 years we've simply substituted one set of tyrants for another, the new ones immeasurably more heartless and bloodthirsty than the ones we shed.

Even by the extreme standards of junk journalism prevalent at the LA Times, this closing paragraph is is off-the-scale for hyperbolic trash writing!

62 posted on 07/03/2011 8:11:48 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Roklok

I’ve never worked with a company that has more control of it’s supplier chain than BMW. It’s their way.


63 posted on 07/03/2011 8:16:24 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The biggest problem with unions are union bosses.

They could care less if they put an employer out of business, it's the rank and file that lose their jobs. The bosses keep theirs and often move to another union to repeat the performance.

If the unions looked at their members production and competence as a product and marketed a high quality product to the employers they would have no problem getting a fair price for their members.

But that would mean the union would have to get rid of the malingerers, the slothful, the troublemakers, the incompetent, and, of course, the communists.

And to look good, they'd have to unionize their office staff (the horror!).

64 posted on 07/03/2011 8:17:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I imagine that was directed at union leadership, just as when we speak of the French in certain terms, we (I) don’t mean the good French people out in the countryside.

Really? Because the picture you took the time to post up is of a worker and his family who are likely to lose their house - and his children with medical issues.

Classy.
65 posted on 07/03/2011 8:17:55 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: bwc2221
"$52,000 is not a particularly salary, particularly for Southern California."

What an enlightening statement, cleared everything up for me.

66 posted on 07/03/2011 8:23:42 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually, I feel bad for all the displaced workers and their families. Do away with unions and we’ll soon find out why unions formed in the first place.


67 posted on 07/03/2011 8:25:32 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m surprised this facility wasn’t moved to Nevada, where there is no inventory tax. That’s where Porsche keeps its parts.


68 posted on 07/03/2011 8:29:50 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (End the "Fiscal Fiasco" in 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Keep in mind, this distribution facility isn’t being closed. For every union job that’s being eliminated, another non-union job is being created. For every worker and family distraught, there’s another worker and family rejoicing at being back on the job.

I do pity the workers who lost out, putting misplaced trust on their unions and union bosses. But when you’re making above market wages and benefits, you’ve got a big target on your backs.


69 posted on 07/03/2011 8:30:42 AM PDT by Be Free (Liberalism is a disease.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Unions suck!

I’ll be buying another BMW convertible after the first of the year :-)


70 posted on 07/03/2011 8:33:55 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If this weren’t so funny, it would be sad.


71 posted on 07/03/2011 8:34:38 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

No, I don't think they do.

No doubt the middle class is being purposely eviscerated, but the middle class owns things. The Beemer class is the leverage class, the Bling-Bling class. It's not "evisceration" in that case so much as it is a resumption of economic reality.

72 posted on 07/03/2011 8:35:27 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Lovers ARE fighters)
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To: CowboyJay
Really? Because the picture you took the time to post up is of a worker and his family who are likely to lose their house - and his children with medical issues.

Right from the Liberal playbook - It is ALWAYS for the children. And children without HEALTHCARE! A double double!

73 posted on 07/03/2011 8:36:25 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good morning...surprising, reading all the comments, that everyone is missing the unstated, though, key point here.

First of all, BMW employes 10,000 people in California, and business, by all accounts, is booming. This is a rounding error to BMW. They will probably add MORE than 70 employees in a few months time. If it wanted to, BMW could easily have gone to the employees, and asked for substantial concessions to match the comparable costs of the outsourcing. The employees would probably have agreed. Somethign is better than nothing.

But if business is BOOMIN for BMW, they probably wanted to EXPAND operations at the facility..hire more employees..and they couldn't do that AND at the same time ask the employees to take a cut.

So, they shut it all down..

74 posted on 07/03/2011 8:36:37 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
The last paragraph is required so the Comrade Journalist can maintain their current position and hope for better opportunities in the coming Politburo.

Too drastic? Well, they support Communism and Socialism so they have to be dreaming of the coming People's Revolution and those delicious purges of all America loving conservatives. Right? The Weather Underground openly discussed and longed for the 20 or 30 million who would have to be eliminated since could never be brainwashed in a re-education camp.Union leadership is part and parcel to the Communist Party in America and the Party openly brags about their success in infiltrating the Unions at every level. They hate us and our Constitution. A pox on them, their houses, their possessions, their family members who support them.

75 posted on 07/03/2011 8:36:49 AM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER thaln a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: FatherofFive

Oh, now I’m a liberal?

LMAO. This place is turning into a pig sty.


76 posted on 07/03/2011 8:39:23 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: count-your-change

I agree with you that $25/hour is hardly a job killing wage. However, the cost to the company is easily in the $50 to $75/hour range factoring in things like taxes, benefits and job rules. Layer into this the uncertainties associated with state and federal tax increases impacted by among other things, the looming Obamacare catastrophe.


77 posted on 07/03/2011 8:40:09 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: BobL

Ontario is in California...


78 posted on 07/03/2011 8:44:48 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Be Free
A couple of random observations:

1. Everybody needs to move away from the idea of doing just one job for the rest of their lives. Nothing is guaranteed, and the best way to provide for yourself and your family is to keep improving and diversifying your skills.

There should have been more strings attached to that $3 billion loan that was made to BMW. I have no problem with the BMW execs being called in by the government.

Every one of those affected employees needs to take action now, particularly meeting with their mortgage lender to modify their loans. HAMP, for all of its hassles, is still available. If the people follow the instructions, they can get it done in 45 days. If the servicer is incompetent, then they should call their Congressman.

If their loans are insured thru FHA (most are), then approval is a slam dunk.

I know of which I speak: I'm one of several professionals at an independent regulatory agency that oversees the work of two top-20 national mortgage servicers.

79 posted on 07/03/2011 8:45:35 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: CowboyJay
Oh, now I’m a liberal?

I didn't say that.

You are just using the Liberal argument - Children will get hurt, and Healthcare.

They didn't look old enough to get the tripple tripple - Old People.

80 posted on 07/03/2011 8:46:16 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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