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Hotel guests describe tense scene after Memphis officer, civilian killed Sunday
The Commerical Appeal (Memphis, TN) ^ | July 4, 2011 | Clay Bailey

Posted on 07/04/2011 9:00:47 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

The atmosphere around the Downtown DoubleTree Hotel was in stark contrast this morning to the chaos that swirled at Third and Union after a Memphis police officer and a civilian were killed at the hotel Sunday night.

Officer Timothy Warren, 39, and a still unidentified man were shot to death at the DoubleTree about 7 p.m. Sunday in what authorities say started as a "shots fired" call . A domestic dispute appears to have contributed to the incident.

(Excerpt) Read more at commercialappeal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: doubletree; hotel; memphis; officer; police; shooting

1 posted on 07/04/2011 9:00:51 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement
Domestic dispute calls strike fear into the hearts of law enforcement offices. All the actors are usually drunk or high on something, and the ‘victims’ can swivel on a dime and become violent to protect their ‘attackers’.
2 posted on 07/04/2011 9:26:46 AM PDT by JPG (Elect Sarah Palin in '12. America won't get another chance.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
...after a Memphis police officer and a civilian were killed...

Both of the folks killed were civilians.

Prayers up for the families of both.

3 posted on 07/04/2011 9:28:14 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: PalmettoMason

Funny you should mention that. My son’s friend’s Mother is a cop. She always speaks of people who are not cops as being civilians. Kind of creepy.


4 posted on 07/04/2011 9:45:28 AM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Part of the militarizaion of the police.Be very glad we don’t yet have a unified national police as in most countries.


5 posted on 07/04/2011 9:51:41 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: BBell

Military wannabees. It makes sense to use pseudo-military “ranks” to organize law-enforcement agencies, but too often they forget their place.


6 posted on 07/04/2011 9:54:57 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: hoosierham
Be very glad we don’t yet have a unified national police as in most countries.

FBI, TSA, ATF, DEA, Etc...

God help us if they ever unify.

7 posted on 07/04/2011 10:03:46 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Charles Martel

Jeeez people,, is this the time to nitpick semantics? Brave guy lost his life responding to a dangerous call. He works for the government, wears a vest, carries a gun, serves in a sturcture,,on a squad, under a sergeant, and then a Lt, and above that a captain of some such.

There was one officer killed and one civilian. This story doesn’t seem to call for anything but prayers for the officers family.


8 posted on 07/04/2011 10:07:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

Both were citizens. One was trying to help keep the peace which is every citizen’s duty, the other was a killer set on killing.


9 posted on 07/04/2011 10:12:33 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DesertRhino; aomagrat; Charles Martel; hoosierham
Jeeez people,, is this the time to nitpick semantics? Brave guy lost his life responding to a dangerous call. He works for the government, wears a vest, carries a gun, serves in a sturcture,,on a squad, under a sergeant, and then a Lt, and above that a captain of some such.

I'm with Desert Rhino. There are MANY instances of cops behaving like totalitarian Gestapo, but this isn't one of them. The Memphis police officer killed here, deserves our prayers and so does his or her family.

10 posted on 07/04/2011 10:14:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Until Obama, has there ever been, in history, a Traitorous Ruler?)
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All the best to the fallen police officer..but..anyone who has spent time around a modern police department has likely seen first hand the disdain all too many of the officers have toward civilians who are not police employees. We need to keep the gulf between our military and police departments wide and deep. They have two entirely different roles in our society.


11 posted on 07/04/2011 10:25:45 AM PDT by Vladzred
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I am totally with you, there has been a much stronger US VERSUS EVERYONE in modern policing. I'd like to see a much stronger partnership between police and general society. I'm not sure how we accomplish that.

But that is a discussion for another thread -- right now, I bow my head and mourn someone that could very well have been a wonderful cop.

12 posted on 07/04/2011 10:30:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Until Obama, has there ever been, in history, a Traitorous Ruler?)
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To: DesertRhino
There was one officer killed and one civilian.

There were two civilians killed. One was a police officer, one wasn't.

That doesn't change the fact that we mourn the loss of the officer's life.

13 posted on 07/04/2011 10:56:40 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: hoosierham; BBell

>Part of the militarizaion of the police.

Cops, military, and most Americans are all people who are unusually geared towards engaging in group competitions. The psychology naturally views the world as groups, either their own, or outsiders. If Mexican citizens naturally came up here all the time, we would differentiate ourselves from the outsiders. If twenty people are killed in Afghanistan in a suicide bombing, and three are American Military, and 17 are MSNBC journalists, we view the military death as a great loss. The traitrous Libs, not so much.

Libs are exactly the opposite. They seek to stifle group competition, so they align with the interests of out-groups, castigate their fellow citizen, and seek to betray their own.

Cops viewing their own as a group isn’t so bad. The psychology will help them to be good at their job.

They do rely on each other to battle evil, feel compelled to protect civilians, and generally support freedom and Conservatism. When they start catering to evil, be it criminals, or a Lib dictator, then we’ll have problems we’ll need to deal with. Until then, a little esprit de corps in’t that bad.


14 posted on 07/04/2011 11:31:22 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (www.anonymousconservative.com - see the evolutionary origin of Liberalism and its purpose in nature)
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To: Charles Martel

God,a cop bashing comment on a thread like this.

Pathetic.


15 posted on 07/04/2011 11:39:24 AM PDT by Mears
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To: aomagrat

Go look at the table of organization for the Department of Homeland Security sometime, the bastards are already unified.


16 posted on 07/04/2011 12:28:36 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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