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Breaking News: Source claims ATF's Tampa SAC walked guns to Honduras
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 6 July, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/07/2011 4:52:14 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: 556x45

“the ATF had no means of tracking the weapons after they left the country”

Actually you are wrong. The guns were in fact traced to numerous death including a border patrol agent.

If no trace ability was part of this operation. Then in fact MX”s calls for the agents to be extradited for this crime are resonable.


61 posted on 07/07/2011 6:41:36 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: 556x45

I think that is a very good summary! Thanks!


62 posted on 07/07/2011 6:43:49 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: marktwain
Just how much scandal can the MSM cover up on the back page?

News Thug looks up:

"How much ya' got?"

63 posted on 07/07/2011 6:51:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Until Obama, has there ever been, in history, a Traitorous Ruler?)
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To: silverleaf

“What possible ideology could the installed associates and cronies of a US President have for running guns to criminal cartels amd marxist revolutionaries?”

Communism and marxism. Quite simply...Obama is a marxist revolutionary. Using this to abolish US citizens right to bear and keep arms was only a side benifit. The big bonus was to destabilize central america for the marxists to take over. The left has long tried to promote and protect marxists in Central America. They also get money in their coffers fro the drug cartels in exchange for protection.

This thing could blow sky high into a huge scandal.


64 posted on 07/07/2011 7:02:26 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: drpix

“The Obama Regime’s running of US guns into Mexico served to MANUFACTURE EVIDENCE to support its gun claims and its redefinition of border enforcement - with the obvious goal of justifying policies to undermine the 2nd Amendment and real border enforcement.”

Exactly. The Administration BROKE the Law as they have done repeatedly to push their Fascist agenda.

This administration makes Nixon Admin look like pikers.
I believe that a Joint session of Congress should be called to hold fully hearings. With subsequent legal actions. What makes this doubley important is that this is from a bunch of ideologues and their spawn that have for 40 years attacked Law enforcement. All their claims that the LE violated THEIR Constitution Rights has given way to using LE to manufacture evidence to violate normal Americans constitutional Rights.

I believe this is a Major attack on our Con. Rights, and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law. Including Impeachment of Zero if he approved or KNEW of this OP.


65 posted on 07/07/2011 7:03:55 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62

Im correct actually. They had no means or process(es) in place to trace the guns once they left the country. In other words once they left the US the ATF had no idea who had them or where they went. This is a known fact. Once a crime was committed w/ them in Mex they only happened upon them randomly, by chance. Remember the Mex govt wasn’t cooperating b/c they weren’t in the loop. The only reason we know a F&F gun killed a BP agent was b/c the ATF/FBI et al became involved officially. If the dead guy were a Mex then our LE wouldn’t have been (usually) involved and hence a trace probably wouldn’t have been done.


66 posted on 07/07/2011 7:05:20 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: bert

My guess: Haiti.


67 posted on 07/07/2011 7:10:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

It will not surprise me if there is a gun running operation for Canada too.


68 posted on 07/07/2011 7:11:39 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Free America52
There were multiple gun walking programs and Holder / Obama knew nothing about them?

Yeah, right ...

Impeach the messiah NOW!

69 posted on 07/07/2011 7:13:00 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Roccus
"Another point Melson clarified for investigators was that the ATF group carrying out the mission of Operation Fast and Furious was placed under the direction of the Arizona U.S. Attorney’s office."

WOW! I had missed that. Thanks, that is huge.

70 posted on 07/07/2011 7:15:12 AM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: IamConservative

The US Attorney General Eric Holder aiding and abetting the killing of citizens of Mexico....

......o who’s the racist now?????


71 posted on 07/07/2011 7:17:06 AM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: 556x45

You just made my point. They sent them across the border and the ONLY way to trace them was when they were used to MURDER someone.

They full expected those guns to be used, thereby giving the Fascist Pigs in DC the oportunity to abrogate the 2nd Amendment.

The BATF was turned into a Criminal org by the anti-gun nutcases in DC.


72 posted on 07/07/2011 7:17:57 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: IMR 4350

Notice the government agencies that obama is using to implement his agenda?

EPA
BATFE
IRS
INS
DOE (energy & education)
TSA
DOJ

Look at this for starters, and tell me what is conspicuously missing from this list. There’s a method to his madness.


73 posted on 07/07/2011 7:18:37 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: poobear

What kind of country is my teenager going to have? What kind of future under these Marxists will she have to endure?
_________________

Sad to say this, but probably not a very bright future in store for future generations. It’s too far gone. It would take just as long to turn it around. I have little hope left. I see no light at the end of the tunnel.


74 posted on 07/07/2011 7:21:18 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

get off scott free together


75 posted on 07/07/2011 7:21:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

get off scott free together ... which would most likely please you greatly.


76 posted on 07/07/2011 7:23:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: marktwain

I suspect that this Tampa operation was an attempt to provide guns to Zelaya’s people, and help the Honduran strongman. Remember, the Obama regime tried to upend the constitutional authority of the Honduran government that was trying to prevent Zalaya’s dictatorship.


77 posted on 07/07/2011 7:24:29 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: marktwain

I’m loving it.


78 posted on 07/07/2011 7:25:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
SAC = Strategic Arms Control

If I'm not mistaken, in DOJ-speak, SAC = Special Agent in Charge.

79 posted on 07/07/2011 7:28:05 AM PDT by Bob
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To: 556x45
They had no means or process(es) in place to trace the guns once they left the country. In other words once they left the US the ATF had no idea who had them or where they went.

Considering one of the goals of the operation was to track the guns, isn't it interesting that not all the guns were tracked? Someone made some nice money on these sales and we will never know all the details.
80 posted on 07/07/2011 7:28:36 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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